Idiots guide to employing staff?

[Zippee]

My girlfriend and I have just started up our first business (a hairdressers) - and whilst this has been stressful, costly and timeconsuming we've learnt a huge deal - however, we are just about to take on our first permanent member of staff (part time at 16 hrs a week initially).
Trouble is we've never done this before - where do we start?
How do we get a PAYE number? How to we register tax codes etc? When do we pay the tax/NI?
Anything else we need to know?
I'm going to have a mooch around on the IR site when I get home tonight but does anyone have any simple advice they can give me on here?

[superlightr]

dont employ child bearing age women if your a small business.

[ipsg.glf]

Get your accountant to sort out the PAYE/NI - Ours charges something like £1.50 per employee, per run.

All I do is fire over their gross wages, they calculate net wages, I pay net wages and send them the HMRC cheque for the employer and employee tax/NI. Simple.

[shadowninja]

superlightr said:

dont employ child bearing age women if your a small business.

Is that in your staff handbook?

[bga]

superlightr said:

dont employ child bearing age women if your a small business.

They generally make us more money & cause us less hassle than blokes of commensurate age and experience.

[superlightr]

shadowninja said:

superlightr said:

dont employ child bearing age women if your a small business.

Is that in your staff handbook?

and framed on the wall as you come into the office....

[mogul]

superlightr said:

shadowninja said:

superlightr said:

dont employ child bearing age women if your a small business.

Is that in your staff handbook?

and framed on the wall as you come into the office....

Didn't think it had to be written in a handbook, just taken as read

[japhilip]

Ring your local tax office and ask. They're normally pretty helpful.

I get the accountant to do it, but in the past I've done it myself. It's not too difficult once you figure it out. IIRC the IR give you a book of tables, you use this to work out the PAYE & NI. Don't forget the additional 12.8% NI you have to pay, but they'll tell you all that.

[Griff Bitch]

Register for PAYE on 0845 6070143.

They will require owners names, address, tel no, NI no, if it is a ltd company they will also require registered office and company no.

Pretty easy to do yourselves, or if you don't want the hassle get your accountant to incorporate it into the yearly fee.

Good luck

[scotal]

superlightr said:

dont employ child bearing age women if your a small business.

ikts a hairdressers... they are going to nrrow their search right downif they wont employ women of childbearing age no?

[superlightr]

yep - I know, bummer isint it. Open up somehting else...

on a serious note - arnt hairdressers self employed and 'buy' a chair. Which would be the route I would go down if I were opeing a hairdressers.

shop, space, cleaing, overheads. rent out a chair perhaps a % of their takings.

Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 16th October 16:48

Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 16th October 16:49

[Broccers]

superlight is on the money.

Also you wont have to pay NI too as well as having an employee with more rights than you do.

[srebbe64]

ipsg.glf said:

Get your accountant to sort out the PAYE/NI - Ours charges something like £1.50 per employee, per run.

All I do is fire over their gross wages, they calculate net wages, I pay net wages and send them the HMRC cheque for the employer and employee tax/NI. Simple.

Yep - agree!

[srebbe64]

superlightr said:

yep - I know, bummer isint it. Open up somehting else...

on a serious note - arnt hairdressers self employed and 'buy' a chair. Which would be the route I would go down if I were opeing a hairdressers.

shop, space, cleaing, overheads. rent out a chair perhaps a % of their takings.

Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 16th October 16:48

Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 16th October 16:49

Hairdressing's not my game, but wouldn't that be IR35 territory?

[Zippee]

anonymous said:

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Cheers Jamie - glad to see it's been noticed!

Thanks to everyone else as well - will be in touch with our accountant tonight.

As for renting a chair - waaay to much hassle and creates a lot more problems than employing directly!

[khushy]

Zip - good luck with the venture!!!

My Wife has had her own salon since 1993 (today is its 14th Anniversary) and she would probably say that its been very rewarding but also very tough!

www.solo2.co.uk - the new site goes live on monday!

You have to be equally tough too - get a good accountant - dont be too pally with the staff - concentrate on what you are good at (hairdressing) and get others to do the other bits (Accounts etc) have a contingency plan in place for when you get the call (and you will) @ 8.45am "i'm not feeling very well" on your busiest day full of appointments!!!

But overall - concentrate on enjoying what you do and what you do best.

Khushy

[khushy]

superlightr said:

yep - I know, bummer isint it. Open up somehting else...

on a serious note - arnt hairdressers self employed and 'buy' a chair. Which would be the route I would go down if I were opeing a hairdressers.

shop, space, cleaing, overheads. rent out a chair perhaps a % of their takings.

Unless of course you actually want to create a business with some value and some values!!!!!

Contract staff will "see you later" at the drop of a hat - at least PERManent staff have to work their notice - LOL!

Rent a chair is ok for a barbers shop - but not the right image for a salon.

khushy

[derestrictor]

Avoid, if at all possible.

That's my advice, Marty.

[Zippee]

khushy said:

Zip - good luck with the venture!!!

My Wife has had her own salon since 1993 (today is its 14th Anniversary) and she would probably say that its been very rewarding but also very tough!

www.solo2.co.uk - the new site goes live on monday!

You have to be equally tough too - get a good accountant - dont be too pally with the staff - concentrate on what you are good at (hairdressing) and get others to do the other bits (Accounts etc) have a contingency plan in place for when you get the call (and you will) @ 8.45am "i'm not feeling very well" on your busiest day full of appointments!!!

But overall - concentrate on enjoying what you do and what you do best.

Khushy

Thanks Khushy - My girlfriends the hairdresser, I'm just paying for it!
We're expecting it to be tough, it was bloody stressful the last 3 months whilst fitting out etc - opened Tuesday and so far all is OK.
We're taking it steady on the staff front and employing only when we know we can afford to - last thing we want is to employ x number of staff only to find they're sitting around with nothing to do. It is hard though as she's going to be there on her own for half the week (juniors are notoriously hard to find at present) but it means everything she does will be for her/done by her. Unlike where she was previously doing all the work whilst her boss just sat on his arse spending the money she was earning him.
We registered today with the IR as an employer so touch wood it should all be pretty straight forward.
Next thing on the agenda will be a website - any tips on this or promotion would be great!

[superlightr]

khushy said:

superlightr said:

yep - I know, bummer isint it. Open up somehting else...

on a serious note - arnt hairdressers self employed and 'buy' a chair. Which would be the route I would go down if I were opeing a hairdressers.

shop, space, cleaing, overheads. rent out a chair perhaps a % of their takings.

Unless of course you actually want to create a business with some value and some values!!!!!

Contract staff will "see you later" at the drop of a hat - at least PERManent staff have to work their notice - LOL!

Rent a chair is ok for a barbers shop - but not the right image for a salon.

khushy

Sure PERManant staff will be more ROOTED to the job, my Hats off to anyone starting up, if your good you certainly will be a CUT above the rest, infact you may be Heads and Shoulders above them all in time. Tell us you HIGHLIGHTS in a years time.

Edited by superlightr on Friday 19th October 09:31