Business milage - cost per mile
Business milage - cost per mile
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sleep envy

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62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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in my company those who receive a car allowance can claim 14p/mile for business milage and those that don't receive 40p/mile

is this a company decision or is it to do with HMRC regs?

is it possible to get a car allowance and claim 40p/mile?

touching cloth

11,706 posts

270 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Company decision I would guess, they COULD pay you 40p per mile and give you a car allowance if they really wanted to. However it makes sense doesn't it, 40p covers a share cost for both petrol and running a car, whereas if they have already paid for the buyingt/running bit with an allowance then it's only really petrol to pay.

You can still get tax relief on the diff upto 40p though I think.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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touching cloth said:
You can still get tax relief on the diff upto 40p though I think.
yes

On your SA.

sleep envy

Original Poster:

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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don't do SA

can I?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Dunno.

ERIC!

hehe

Eric Mc

125,806 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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If an individual has a company car but the company does not pay for the fuel, the individual can claim between 6p and 18p per mile (depending on engine type and size) for business trips without any tax implications.

If the individual uses his own personal car for business trips, he can claim 40p per mile up to 10,000 miles and 25p thereafter.

An individual who receives a car allowance is technically using his own car. Therefore, he could be paid up to 40p per mile without any tax implicatiosn. If his employer is only paying 14p per mile to these individuals, then that is obviously a company policy. The individuals who receive these lower rates could make a claim to the Revenue for the missing 26p per mile.Obviously, the tax reduction they receive is the mileage amount claimed miltiplied by their top rate of Income Tax.

Anyone can voluntarilly complete an SA form.

These days there is a "Short" tax form which is easier to complete. You can always ask the tax office to send one out to you. You can go back six years if you want to make retrospective claims.
You need to have supporting evidence for any claims you make.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 24th January 11:09

sleep envy

Original Poster:

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280 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Righty ho, cheers Eric!

sleep envy

Original Poster:

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Thursday 24th January 2008
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Eric Mc said:
These days there is a "Short" tax form which is easier to complete. You can always ask the tax office to send one out to you. You can go back six years if you want to make retrospective claims.
You need to have supporting evidence for any claims you make.
Is it the P86?

and also, supporting evidence - till receipts for fuel?

Eric Mc

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296 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Yes - but more importantly, proof that the trip was business related and the mileage involved.
Therefore, a work diary or, even better, copies of the expense claim forms submitted to your employer are much more useful in these types of claims.

The Short Tax Return is called the SA200.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 24th January 11:47

sleep envy

Original Poster:

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Thursday 24th January 2008
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cheers again

desk diary and monthly expenses claim form already sorted

Seany88

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251 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Yes - but more importantly, proof that the trip was business related and the mileage involved.
Therefore, a work diary or, even better, copies of the expense claim forms submitted to your employer are much more useful in these types of claims.

The Short Tax Return is called the SA200.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 24th January 11:47
Is a work diary sufficient proof of mileage? As I don't keep petrol receipts but mileage could be more or less verified through sat nav.

Eric Mc

125,806 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Yes.

Anything that proves you made the trip and the trip was for business purposes.

sleep envy

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280 months

Monday 5th May 2008
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Eric Mc said:
The Short Tax Return is called the SA200.
Eric - is this the correct form?

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sa/shorttaxreturn.htm 

sleep envy

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Tuesday 6th May 2008
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the form is P87 if anyone needs it

Adam T

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237 months

Tuesday 6th May 2008
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We have just made the decisiion to raise the petrol rate for car users to 43p per mile to try and help with the rising fuel costs. The 3p per mile has to be kept accountof as it is classed as a benefit in kind in repsect of the P111

sleep envy

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Tuesday 6th May 2008
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any chance you can be my employer?

mogul

15,400 posts

281 months

Tuesday 6th May 2008
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Don't forget if you carry a passenger you can claim an extra 5p per mile.

sleep envy

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Tuesday 6th May 2008
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really?

:scratchcin:

what counts as a passenger?

hitchhiker?

public lice?

imaginary friends?

mogul

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281 months

Tuesday 6th May 2008
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sleep envy said:
really?

:scratchcin:

what counts as a passenger?

hitchhiker?

public lice?

imaginary friends?
All of the above but you can't count crabswink

sleep envy

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Tuesday 6th May 2008
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hehe