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croxsons

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1,863 posts

229 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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We are thinking about employing someone but we want to create a job role for him.

I am looking for a title more than anything, eventually he could become Ops Director, but seeing as that is my role, he won't be getting that title!

The role will consist of:

Develop relationships with existing suppliers as well as sourcing new key supplier partners for products and transport.
Analysing existing business procedures and seek improvements across all processes.
Develop business continuity processes.
Manage internal sales personnel and processes.
Work with sales director on appropriate major accounts using personal contacts.

So what do you reckon? What would be a good job title? The pay is quite good as he is a good guy, so I guess that I am looking for something better than "business manager" which is the best we have at the moment!

TIA

KingRichard

10,146 posts

262 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Sounds like general manager to me... It doesn't quite fit neatly into sales manager, or operations manager IYSWIM smile
And then you've got recruitment and HR in there as well hehe

Poor sods gonna be run ragged!

StevieBee

15,430 posts

285 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Director of Operations (or Operations Director)



fade2grey

704 posts

278 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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business development manager?

at the end of the day, if he enjoys the job & the pay is alright, the title matters little.

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,863 posts

229 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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I think eventually, he could fufill a MD role providing that he was in the office enough (he lives 200 miles away - but we have a house he can use during the week for a couple of nights a week).

But, a title for now? Operations Director is out, see above, as I am Operations Director elect, so there is under no circumstances that I would allow that, unless I took on the MD role ... now that is food for thought.

I am Operations Manager, so he can't have that when he joins, but argh, frustrating ... what do we offer?

Business Continuity Manager?

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,863 posts

229 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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fade2grey said:
business development manager?

at the end of the day, if he enjoys the job & the pay is alright, the title matters little.
The problem is that we can't expect someone to come in who has extensive experience within the industry, at both operations, project and sales manager level, including negogiation contracts with hauliers for a truck every 30 minutes, creation of new rail link from Liverpool to Scotland.

BDM is not enough for someone of his caliber. We are approaching him, not the other way around!

ukvoyager.info

2,782 posts

252 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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How about any of the following followed by Manager/Director:

Quality
Engineering
Projects
Programme
Business
CRM

Failing that you could make something up that is very nebulous and meaningless.


JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

295 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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ukvoyager.info said:
Failing that you could make something up that is very nebulous and meaningless.
sure.. like any of the following followed by Manager/Director:

Quality
Engineering
Projects
Programme
Business
CRM

smile

sparkyb999

322 posts

228 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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How about "account manager"? (Business account manager)

No need to make it fancy.. he will only want more money!!..smile

When i have these sales reps etc etc come to us, and see a title like "south commerical operations business account tech director" i am thinking.. hmm what a plank!..smile

Keep it simple!


croxsons

Original Poster:

1,863 posts

229 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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sparkyb999 said:
How about "account manager"? (Business account manager)

No need to make it fancy.. he will only want more money!!..smile

When i have these sales reps etc etc come to us, and see a title like "south commerical operations business account tech director" i am thinking.. hmm what a plank!..smile

Keep it simple!
The only problem with that is that we already have a Sales Director and UK Sales Manager. Business Account Manager implies a sales role, whereas his role is more Operations / General Management.

Andrew[MG]

3,360 posts

228 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Senior Operations Manager

My biz card used to be "Director of Global Operations", didn't quite manage to go global though.

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,863 posts

229 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Andrew[MG] said:
Senior Operations Manager

My biz card used to be "Director of Global Operations", didn't quite manage to go global though.
lol, I know that feeling. The only issue with using the Operations Line is that I am acting Ops Director elect, but don't want to propose that I am above him, which in title I will be.

Oh this is to confusing.

condor

8,837 posts

278 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Facilities manager?

Fume Troll

4,389 posts

242 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Business Implimentation Manager?

We have some of those.

Cheers,

FT.

Golfman

5,638 posts

276 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Is there a guideline on what to pay a GM ?

stepej

445 posts

270 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Business Systems Director ?

sparkyb999

322 posts

228 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Golfman said:
Is there a guideline on what to pay a GM ?
depends what business your in, company size etc etc and also what job description is carries!

edb49

1,652 posts

235 months

Saturday 5th April 2008
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croxons - can't you just change your own job title? Instead of looking at the problem as to decide his job title, decide both yours and his at the same time relevant to your relative positions within the company.

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,863 posts

229 months

Saturday 5th April 2008
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edb49 said:
croxsons - can't you just change your own job title? Instead of looking at the problem as to decide his job title, decide both yours and his at the same time relevant to your relative positions within the company.
This is true, but a) I have no idea what title I would have ... Ops Director best describes my role. and b) just about in every trade journal, directory, the Ops Director / Manager is down as the main contact. I wouldn't want him to be bothered by marketing calls, which I seem to field most of the time.

ukvoyager.info

2,782 posts

252 months

Saturday 5th April 2008
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JamieBeeston said:
ukvoyager.info said:
Failing that you could make something up that is very nebulous and meaningless.
sure.. like any of the following followed by Manager/Director:

Quality
Engineering
Projects
Programme
Business
CRM

smile


confused Ok CRM & Business I agree but what's wrong with the others? confused