Starting a car related business
Starting a car related business
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Rav

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3,084 posts

261 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Really bored of my current career. Been in telecoms for the past eleven years.

I really get a buzz out of cars especially ones i wanted as a child.

I have an idea to setup a garage selling cars from the mid to late 80s through to the mid to late 90s. Im talking about cars like the BMW M3, Mercedes 190E Cosworth, Porsche 944s, Audi S4 etc.
I would source myself and sell on at a small mark up.

How would i start somthing like this up?
Is there money to be made in this type of business?
Any ideas where these sorts of cars come up for sale at 'good' prices?

I have also considered starting of by buying regular ('04 plate Audi A4 1.9 tdi SE) cars from auction, cleaning up and selling privatly. Any money to be made here? any tips?

Cheers :-)

Glassman

25,064 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Rav said:
I have also considered starting of by buying regular ('04 plate Audi A4 1.9 tdi SE) cars from auction, cleaning up and selling privatly. Any money to be made here? any tips?

Cheers :-)
Get up earlier than the Lithuanians.

HTH.

singlecoil

35,836 posts

277 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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General rule of this sort of thing is that the money is made on the purchase, not the sale. You can only sell at the market price so you have to buy at below market price. Best way to do that is to be in the right palce at the right time with the rioght amount of cash.

Quite often with cars you will buy something that has something wrong with it. Unless you have a way to fix it at low cost then you will find that your competition are selling these cars on without mentioning the problem. Will you be able to do that?

Glassman

25,064 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Competition is fierce; Eastern Europeans / Asians are repiaring for next to nothing.

Better if you can do a lot of the work yourself.

Ade355

337 posts

271 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Most car traders have a large contact network within the industry, built up over many years. Its probably wise to step into the industry slowly and maybe easiest to work for someone else first until you know the industry inside-out.

Chrisgr31

14,290 posts

286 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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The trick is sourcing the cars. One second hand dealer near Maidstone used to take all the part exchanges of the Audi/BMW franchise in Kent and Sussex. He would then sell them on for a small mark up, and compulsory warranty.

But he was effectively getting good quality cars at a very competitive price so could afford to do it.

You would need some similar deal with a dealer in your area.

The trick is not to hold the cars for too long, turn them quickly. You also need very cheap premises, as alot of car sales are done through Autotrader and Ebay now days. The market is also very quiet.

As someone else has said I'd try a spell in the business as an employee first before investing your own money in it!

Burba

1,870 posts

288 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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and a key bit of advice, is that just because someone has said they would buy that certain item, and particularly from you, doesn't mean that either of those statements is true! laugh

POORCARDEALER

8,668 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Great piece of advice for you..............dont bother, leave it for 6-12 months, see how the economy pans out.

dreamz

5,299 posts

224 months

Friday 18th April 2008
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though there wud be a market for the nostalgia side of motoring - such as the escort cossie's etc u have to put it in the right area's too. young lads with cash i doubt want them. but i do agree with the above - see how the economy pans out first.

JustinP1

13,363 posts

261 months

Friday 18th April 2008
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As has been said, now is quite possibly the worst time to do this in about ten years.

The only untapped niche I can think would be to advertise a service where you can buy shiny newish motors people have bought with unsecured credit for cash, as they can't afford the payments, or alternatively a 'swop' with cash for something 25% of its value.

Whilst the 'classics' side of things is a nice idea, and something there is a market for through collectors or nostalgic people, that is a small, small niche. The superrich don't want one of the last E36 M3 GTs ever made but someone on say £20k a year may do, and have it as his weekend car, as his pride and joy. The problem is that at the moment, he has no spare cash.

touching cloth

11,706 posts

270 months

Friday 18th April 2008
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Rav said:
I have also considered starting of by buying regular ('04 plate Audi A4 1.9 tdi SE) cars from auction, cleaning up and selling privatly. Any money to be made here? any tips?
You can't just decide if it's a private sale, if you buy at auction with the intention of selling on for profit then your a trader. That means proper accounting/tax liable on profit, vat when you hit the turnover threshold (not hard if trading cars) and of course being bound by sale of goods act etc with an effective 3 month warranty.

Bri957

288 posts

254 months

Friday 18th April 2008
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Have a chat with Bryn_P on here.

He started out with very similar intentions, and seems to be doing ok.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

255 months

Saturday 26th April 2008
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you will need to be vat registered to buy from most auctions and also to buy part exchanges from most small garages. Dont bet on leap frogging thier favourite regular traders that usually buy there part exs, anytime soon. If you sell from home your neighbours WILL ring , hmrc, council etc, its a very hard trade to make money out of nowdays.

mwg123

148 posts

230 months

Saturday 26th April 2008
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cars are for buying and selling, not for falling in love with. You want to do it for all the wrong reasons? Unless it's just a hobby.

Matt