Business for an errant child
Business for an errant child
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Brown and Boris

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11,838 posts

266 months

Wednesday 18th June 2008
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Ok, few ideas wanted.

My son needs a job when he starts uni this summer. Nothing much going (or so he says) in terms of permanant jobns which will pay his bills and course fees but not requitre 70 hours a week and this defeat the pont of going to uni to study. If all else fails I suggested he start his own small business. I might put in a bit of seed money, say £1k-£2k.

Him; got an English degree, and a masters in creative writing (awaiting PhD start) bright and creative but only works hard on things that interest him which revolve around his writing, Aikido and travelling. Can't drive.

Short of rent boy, any ideas?

Mattt

16,664 posts

249 months

Wednesday 18th June 2008
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Aikido supplies on the web/eBay?

Xaero

4,063 posts

246 months

Wednesday 18th June 2008
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Write books on aikido across the globe.

Diddy

64 posts

238 months

Wednesday 18th June 2008
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Start an Aikido class in a local church hall?

Brown and Boris

Original Poster:

11,838 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Diddy said:
Start an Aikido class in a local church hall?
I think the insurance would be an issue there but selling Aikido gear could work. I recall someone here on PH sells martial arts equipment via the net. He has worked in the past seling places on Aikido courses for the larger dojos (is that the right spelling?) but got paid in lessons and equipment, which hardly pays the real bills.

Golfman

5,638 posts

277 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Sorry to be harsh but why isn’t he on here finding ideas himself, why is daddy doing it for him at his age? Kick him out into the real world, join the army, travel the world etc…

Stu R

21,685 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Golfman said:
Sorry to be harsh but why isn’t he on here finding ideas himself, why is daddy doing it for him at his age? Kick him out into the real world, join the army, travel the world etc…
Perhaps because 'daddy' uses this forum and his son doesn't? As for travelling or joining the army, can't really see them being to open to the idea of him working around his uni hours.

Why not just get some bar work or the like? Whilst a business can be a good idea it can also fast become a bit of a burden if it's successful and planned around your free time.

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

259 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Stu R said:
Golfman said:
Sorry to be harsh but why isn’t he on here finding ideas himself, why is daddy doing it for him at his age? Kick him out into the real world, join the army, travel the world etc…
Perhaps because 'daddy' uses this forum and his son doesn't? As for travelling or joining the army, can't really see them being to open to the idea of him working around his uni hours.

Why not just get some bar work or the like? Whilst a business can be a good idea it can also fast become a bit of a burden if it's successful and planned around your free time.
TA
Proofreading
Takeaway Deliveries
Bar Job
Call Center
Delivering Yellow Pages
Any Question Answered
Research Assistant in the Uni
CV writing/editing

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

259 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Also out of interest, what PHd follows on from English and Creative Writing? Is 3 years extra study in this fields going to help his prospects?

stevieb

5,253 posts

298 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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A company somewhere must be sponsoring his PhD, if not why not?? I have been for interviews for 2 PhD so far and both have had sponsorship attached. I have been unable to accept them as i work for a rival company and am not quitting my job.

But why not apply for ajob at the uni as said before as a research assistant, if not basic call centre job etc.

RichBurley

2,432 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Golfman said:
Sorry to be harsh but why isn’t he on here finding ideas himself, why is daddy doing it for him at his age? Kick him out into the real world, join the army, travel the world etc…
A little bit harsh, but to extend this point further; a person who is self employed will only be successful if the drive comes from within, not from another person. In other words, going self employed has to be son's choice and idea, not dads!

Brown and Boris

Original Poster:

11,838 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Stevenj214 said:
Also out of interest, what PHd follows on from English and Creative Writing? Is 3 years extra study in this fields going to help his prospects?
He is doing resaerch work on some Scottish sci-fi writer with a view to going into academia.

Brown and Boris

Original Poster:

11,838 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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RichBurley said:
Golfman said:
Sorry to be harsh but why isn’t he on here finding ideas himself, why is daddy doing it for him at his age? Kick him out into the real world, join the army, travel the world etc…
A little bit harsh, but to extend this point further; a person who is self employed will only be successful if the drive comes from within, not from another person. In other words, going self employed has to be son's choice and idea, not dads!
I think you are right. I am just trying to put ideas in front of him, and god forbid I should have to get involved beyond that and some initial funding.

He has applied for a few call centre and Scottish parliament jobs (not as a MSP) . The financial institutions seem to be keeping their powder dry, keeping him on the list for assessment as and when they need people. Uni jobs sounded a good bet and he has been on their job site although not all jobs are open to external candidates and the research assist jobs are all in medical and technical areas. The local council have a good site and there are loads of learning/teaching assistants at the moment ready for September (he had 16 months in a school as a TA in Japan).

I did suggest he trained as a doorman for ad hoc work though one of the agencies/pubs/clubs. Although not heavily built he can look after himself and is articulate and persuasive (although a bit of a flowery bullstter).



plasticpig

12,932 posts

256 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Brown and Boris said:
Stevenj214 said:
Also out of interest, what PHd follows on from English and Creative Writing? Is 3 years extra study in this fields going to help his prospects?
He is doing resaerch work on some Scottish sci-fi writer with a view to going into academia.
I thought academia took rather a dim view of sci-fi?

Andrew[MG]

3,360 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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What about writing copy for local web design/SEO firms? Just call them up and offer the service.

Mr POD

5,153 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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He's doing a PHD ? He won't have time for real work, just 120 hours of research every week.

I've a business idea, after I failed to sell 2 sets of alloys on ebay. I'll let you know when I'm up and running

Audicab

496 posts

278 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Writing marketing copy can be done remotely, we are often looking for good writers that can take what we want to say and convert it into very good marketing copy for emails, brochures, websites etc. It can be quite specialised but a little research and he could have the skills.

fade2grey

704 posts

279 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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mep?wink

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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plasticpig said:
Brown and Boris said:
Stevenj214 said:
Also out of interest, what PHd follows on from English and Creative Writing? Is 3 years extra study in this fields going to help his prospects?
He is doing resaerch work on some Scottish sci-fi writer with a view to going into academia.
I thought academia took rather a dim view of sci-fi?
Umm. Would the writer be one Iain M Banks, perchance?

You know? I've an idea. Since he has a degree in English and Creative Writing and is intending to do a Phd in the same why not, you know, urmmm, write something - perhaps even creatively!

A bit like that Scots writer - Iain M Banks. His writing sells a lot and makes him pots of money! Why not, errrm, actually DO IT instead of, oh the irony, writing about it?

If that isn't going to work why not do Mills and Boon. I st you not. You don't make big bucks but you can make money. He ought to be able to turn that st out like cranking a handle.

Brown and Boris

Original Poster:

11,838 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Don said:
plasticpig said:
Brown and Boris said:
Stevenj214 said:
Also out of interest, what PHd follows on from English and Creative Writing? Is 3 years extra study in this fields going to help his prospects?
He is doing resaerch work on some Scottish sci-fi writer with a view to going into academia.
I thought academia took rather a dim view of sci-fi?
Umm. Would the writer be one Iain M Banks, perchance?

You know? I've an idea. Since he has a degree in English and Creative Writing and is intending to do a Phd in the same why not, you know, urmmm, write something - perhaps even creatively!

A bit like that Scots writer - Iain M Banks. His writing sells a lot and makes him pots of money! Why not, errrm, actually DO IT instead of, oh the irony, writing about it?

If that isn't going to work why not do Mills and Boon. I st you not. You don't make big bucks but you can make money. He ought to be able to turn that st out like cranking a handle.
He has won a few poetry prizes and was shortlisted for one of the major ones this year, but living by winning compeitions is a bit precarious. Also I have read some of his work: a tad celebral for me (and a bit rude in places) so I am not sure it is the next best seller.

Actaully he did write the copy for a booklet I am publishing so that could be something doing it for web sites and the like.

I know the writer from his PhD isn't Banks but the name slips my mind. He did try to get some money out of various Scoptish resaerch instiutes and the publisher of the author and they expressed interest, but no hard cash. There's his firt business lesson!