I hate losing.
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I found out last night we lost a tender we went for a few months ago. There are only about 6 of these a year so each one counts. Plus there are only 3 of us in the market.
After the post mortem with the consultant it looks like we were equal top on quality but lost it on price.
It wasn’t much money and the budgeted margin wasn’t that high but even so I am still very gutted.
Anyone got some good news?
After the post mortem with the consultant it looks like we were equal top on quality but lost it on price.
It wasn’t much money and the budgeted margin wasn’t that high but even so I am still very gutted.
Anyone got some good news?
Mr POD said:
ukvoyager.info said:
Anyone got some good news?
my son is out of hospital and had a good night, sleeping from 10 pm til 2am and then til 8am. the pnuemonia is clearly improving.and on wednesday, we moulded the biggest 'XXXXXXXX' type of Product ever in the world, using 4000kg of PU, using the biggest mixing and dispencing machine in the world.
1 moulding ? £100000 in revenue.
You have just been told you were equal top in quality!!!. Why the hell do you need cheering up!
That is great news, go and celebrate that all those months and years of effort have put you at the top of the game.
Market leading quality and service sustains a business, little or no margin sales don't. Having said all of that a few overhead recovery contracts to maintain cashflow flows helps everyone!!!
That is great news, go and celebrate that all those months and years of effort have put you at the top of the game.
Market leading quality and service sustains a business, little or no margin sales don't. Having said all of that a few overhead recovery contracts to maintain cashflow flows helps everyone!!!
A company i have large interest in just signed a contract to fit out and maintain an energy saving product i found out in Taipei to every Swarovski retail outlet in Europe. It also looks like we might be about to sign a huge, long term contract with the Government for a similar product that will run throughout the UK.
Can't say what the product is for obvious reasons, but its big time news !!!!!
Can't say what the product is for obvious reasons, but its big time news !!!!!
SagMan said:
You have just been told you were equal top in quality!!!. Why the hell do you need cheering up!
That is great news, go and celebrate that all those months and years of effort have put you at the top of the game.
Market leading quality and service sustains a business, little or no margin sales don't. Having said all of that a few overhead recovery contracts to maintain cashflow flows helps everyone!!!
That is great news, go and celebrate that all those months and years of effort have put you at the top of the game.
Market leading quality and service sustains a business, little or no margin sales don't. Having said all of that a few overhead recovery contracts to maintain cashflow flows helps everyone!!!
The SagMan has a point!We have only ourselves to blame on the margin. We came in to the market 18 months ago and undercut people in a big way.
On Sunday I was looking at a fairly lean few weeks coming up.
On Monday morning I had a phonecall out of the blue with an enquirey.
By Monday evening I'd submitted a proposal.
By Tuesday evening I'd won the job.
This morning I had the pre-start meeting.
On Monday we start work - flat out for the next six weeks!
Cheered me up!
On Monday morning I had a phonecall out of the blue with an enquirey.
By Monday evening I'd submitted a proposal.
By Tuesday evening I'd won the job.
This morning I had the pre-start meeting.
On Monday we start work - flat out for the next six weeks!
Cheered me up!

Mastiff said:
Nice to hear some good news, I'm pushing water uphill with a poxy pitchfork at the moment. 
Still, I'm going to cheer myself up by starting a new project next week, nailing blamange to the ceiling.
"Good news"...Razor blades now on a special 2 for 1 deal at asda....
Still, I'm going to cheer myself up by starting a new project next week, nailing blamange to the ceiling.
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Bad luck Voyager. Our market is swamped and I have only lost out to much bigger far more experienced agencies and that has been rare, but I still get really jealous and pissed about it (then feel a bit petty and embarrassed but still pissed!).
On a good note, I have been approached by a multimillion£ company who have expressed any interest in buying me or absorbing me as a partner. To put this in context, I'm a sole trader in my 2nd year. I probably won't take it as I like being independant but I feel bloody pleased with myself.
On a good note, I have been approached by a multimillion£ company who have expressed any interest in buying me or absorbing me as a partner. To put this in context, I'm a sole trader in my 2nd year. I probably won't take it as I like being independant but I feel bloody pleased with myself.
Plotloss said:
Mastiff said:
Still, I'm going to cheer myself up by starting a new project next week, nailing blamange to the ceiling.
Place blancmange on board, insert nails through blancmange into board, nail board to ceiling.I might go back into consultancy...
My apologies for appearing to put a dampner on an otherwise uplifting thread!
My post was a bit tongue in cheek.Things are actually OK at the moment. Last month was really good in fact.
I have learnt to live with an egotistical lunatic as a boss and have got used to the fact that, like everyone else I am working twice as hard as I was five years ago to earn pretty much the same money.
What the hell, good family and friends and a decent holiday in October to look forward to. Just keeping my head down and ploughing on.
Like the original poster.....Next!
God I love winning!!!
Found out yesterday we are preferred bidders for a big job in the Midlands! Those of you not familiar with OJEC tendering, when they announce the winner, there is a 2 week standstill period to allow for challenges of unfair practice or the procedure not being followed correctly.
The question is, will I have any nails left by the end of the 2 weeks?
Found out yesterday we are preferred bidders for a big job in the Midlands! Those of you not familiar with OJEC tendering, when they announce the winner, there is a 2 week standstill period to allow for challenges of unfair practice or the procedure not being followed correctly.
The question is, will I have any nails left by the end of the 2 weeks?

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