Bankruptcy Laws
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paoloh

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8,617 posts

235 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Hi guys,

A friend is being made bankrupt and has been told that as he is married, his wife will be made bankrupt too. Is that correct?

smartie

2,630 posts

304 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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no, though if someone is making him/them bankrupt it may be due to a joint debt?

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

284 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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No, as the above poster said that only applies to joint debts.

StevieBee

15,457 posts

286 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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…..however, your friend’s wife will have a black mark against her name as she resides (I assume!) at the same address as the person being made bankrupt. It’s the address of the bankrupt person that gets flagged up first. So, she may have difficulty getting credit by association even though she herself is not bankrupt.

Catherine197

9,586 posts

274 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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StevieBee said:
…..however, your friend’s wife will have a black mark against her name as she resides (I assume!) at the same address as the person being made bankrupt. It’s the address of the bankrupt person that gets flagged up first. So, she may have difficulty getting credit by association even though she herself is not bankrupt.
Think you might find that is not the case as much these days.

smartie

2,630 posts

304 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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more importantly, if they are financially linked (ie joint debts, accounts etc) then it will affect the others credit file; marriage in itself wouldn't.

Piglet

6,250 posts

286 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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smartie said:
no, though if someone is making him/them bankrupt it may be due to a joint debt?
This is correct but he really does need to get good advice for something as serious as this. He needs to contact one of the decent debt counselling services if he hasn't already?

paoloh

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8,617 posts

235 months

Saturday 16th August 2008
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I have spoken to him and the debt is solely in his name. Although married, they have no joint debts.

smartie

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304 months

Saturday 16th August 2008
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paoloh said:
I have spoken to him and the debt is solely in his name. Although married, they have no joint debts.
Do they own the house jointly? If so, she may be required to either "buy" his equity to pay into his bankruptcy or sell the property if this isn't possible. Other than that, she has no requirement to declare bankruptcy.

Catherine197

9,586 posts

274 months

Saturday 16th August 2008
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As smartie has said if they own the house together, the official receiver will be interested in his share of the beneficial interest in the property.

In summary the beneficial interest is the difference between the Value of the house as confirmed by a Chartered Surveyor, minus anything secured on it. This includes mortgages and 2nd charges such as secured loans.

His wife will be able to make an offer to buy back the beneficial interest, minus the cost of sale. For example if his BI was £10k, you would offer somewhere in the region of £7k.

paoloh

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8,617 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th August 2008
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House is solely in his name.
Only joint debt is a flat they own. No equity in it due to current market I am told.

Piglet

6,250 posts

286 months

Sunday 17th August 2008
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paoloh said:
House is solely in his name.
Only joint debt is a flat they own. No equity in it due to current market I am told.
So they go after her for any shortfall on this asset?

Is he getting advice elsewhere?

Has the house always been in his name only? Have they carried out any swapping of assets in readiness for bankruptcy?

smartie

2,630 posts

304 months

Sunday 17th August 2008
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I doubt the flat will need to be sold if there is genuinely no equity - OR will probably want a valuation. If the mortgage can be paid by partner/rent income whatever then mortgage company will likely let it continue.

Catherine197

9,586 posts

274 months

Sunday 17th August 2008
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Right if there is genuinely no equity or less than £1000 then the Official Receiver will not be interested in it. I need to double check for you but the figure of £1 being paid to the Official Receiver springs to mind.

I should add however that the actual value of the house will have to be determined by a qualified Chartered Surveyor, not what your friend thinks or what the local estate agent says as a result of a free appraisal.

Approx £150 should get you a valuation from a CI. You ask the CI for a valuation for a forced sale and this is the one time where you actively point out to the CI all the faults with the property.

The Moose

23,701 posts

240 months

Sunday 17th August 2008
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what about joint credit-cards / joing bank-accounts etc. surely if they are both named on them she would get some what of a black mark, however small...???

maybe check out some of these sites / pass them on...

http://www.urlrunt.info/Y37Q

or:

http://www.urlrunt.info/TVCH

it maybe worth emailing some of these people??

The Moose