really quick VAT question - wheres my return paper?
really quick VAT question - wheres my return paper?
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Steamer

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14,198 posts

244 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Just a quick question, I dont know anyone else VAT registered so I cant ask them.

My VAT quarter is July / Aug / Sept and I'm sure i usually get the return paperwork (the green sheet) well in advance.

But its not here yet... should I start putting on my tinfoil hat and worrying that I'm going get a visit? yikes Only kidding, but I did wonder when the green sheet arrives.

Eric Mc

125,855 posts

296 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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You should be getting it fairly soon. Your quarter ends on 30 September. The return needs to be sent to HM Revenue and Customs before 31 October together with any payments due.

So you have just over six weeks before you need to panic.

Have you got your Certificate of VAT Registration yet?

Steamer

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14,198 posts

244 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Hi Eric

Thanks for the reply, yes I've been doing returns for over 4 years now - no worries.

But i always put the paperwork just under the corner of my keyboard so it reminds me when to do it.... I just started thinking its usually here by now!

Eric Mc

125,855 posts

296 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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I assumed you were new to VAT - sorry.

Steamer

Original Poster:

14,198 posts

244 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Eric Mc said:
I assumed you were new to VAT - sorry.
No its just me wondering where the paper work had got. I thought maybe someone that had the same quaterly return date to me would say if thiers had arrived yet.

David Beer

3,982 posts

298 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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don't mess
with these guys , due to my bank messing up I have paid 3.5k in fines this year !If you don't have the green return, Phone them, they are. Really nice people, and that is not a joke. Going through the appeal process at the mo so maybe I will change my mind!!

Eric Mc

125,855 posts

296 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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Thay will also accept a "home made" return. If the oriiginal blank form goes astry, I sometime make a new "blank" return by amending the photocopy of an earlier return with the dates and amounts changed - and an original signature added at the bottom.
I always photocopy returns before sending them in so I always have the basis of a "master" VAT return form if necessary.

So far, the VAT Office has never rejected one of these "adopted" forms.

Steamer

Original Poster:

14,198 posts

244 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Thay will also accept a "home made" return. If the oriiginal blank form goes astry, I sometime make a new "blank" return by amending the photocopy of an earlier return with the dates and amounts changed - and an original signature added at the bottom.
I always photocopy returns before sending them in so I always have the basis of a "master" VAT return form if necessary.

So far, the VAT Office has never rejected one of these "adopted" forms.
Thanks again Eric.

Yes I've always scanned the return before sending it (just incase! and partly because I'm part of the tin-hat brigade!)

Interesting to know they accept copies too.

I'll give them a buzz if it doesnt arrive in the next week or two.

Simpo Two

93,037 posts

296 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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I always put a note in my diary 'Send VAT' with a big asterisk next to it.

In 16 years I've only had one problem when I mislaid the form. I contacted HMCE to let them know but by the time they replied with a duplicate, it was almost too late. I posted it off first class the day before it was due, and of course the splendid postal service took two days instead of one. HMCE did send me a letter saying they might fine me, but nothing happened.

It's ironic that we have to do things to the exact day, while Govt departments can fart about for weeks.

magic torch

5,781 posts

253 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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Mine hasn't arrived either, was going to give them a call Monday.

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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magic torch said:
Mine hasn't arrived either, was going to give them a call Monday.
Same here, i also use the "stick it under the keyboard" method as a reminder!!

ginettag27

7,156 posts

300 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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Which form is it? Most can be downloaded from HMRC's website..

arcturus

1,498 posts

294 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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Same here, mine hasn't arrived yet either.

mrsxllifts

2,501 posts

230 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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Unfortunately this is one form you can't download, below is cut and paste from HMRC website:

Forms

VAT 100
Description
Use the VAT 100 VAT Return to make your VAT Return. This form is automatically sent to VAT registered traders if and when they need one - it can't be downloaded or ordered online. You can, however, use the VAT Online Services to submit your VAT Return.

You either need to ring them and get a new one sent out, which may be too late if its QE 31/8/08, or do the DIY option as mentioned above.

Sorry to be bearer of bad news

ginettag27

7,156 posts

300 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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mrsxllifts said:
Unfortunately this is one form you can't download, below is cut and paste from HMRC website:

Forms

VAT 100
Description
Use the VAT 100 VAT Return to make your VAT Return. This form is automatically sent to VAT registered traders if and when they need one - it can't be downloaded or ordered online. You can, however, use the VAT Online Services to submit your VAT Return.

You either need to ring them and get a new one sent out, which may be too late if its QE 31/8/08, or do the DIY option as mentioned above.

Sorry to be bearer of bad news
But of course!!

Steamer

Original Poster:

14,198 posts

244 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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Hope my paranoia isnt spreading - sorry if I'm worrying a bit early, but I'm sure its normally here by now.

Anyway:

I did give them a quick call today and they said its probably on its way in the post now, but to be on the safe side the chap said he would send out a duplicate just incase the original had gone AWOL.

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Mine arrived today.

oilandwater

1,427 posts

221 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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I must admit you got me a bit jittery too. So I 'phoned them and requested copy. I began to think it was already October, so rushed with Vat invoices etc. I thought I hadn't many for September, then I realised afterwards that it was still September. Doh!!! Guess what? Two arrived this morning. They must think I'm mad. A common assumption. rolleyes

Steamer

Original Poster:

14,198 posts

244 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Yep - just like buses two arrived this morning too!

Eric Mc

125,855 posts

296 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Methinks that there are problems at their central distribution depot.