Interest rates going forward? Quick Help needed.
Interest rates going forward? Quick Help needed.
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JOETHETOE

Original Poster:

548 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Any thoughts guys? Just been offered to swap from my current 2 year (10 mths left) fixed at 5.7% to 1.59% above base rate 3 year.

They wrap the costs into the loan etc, I appreciate that the reason is that I am tied in for longer but assuming the base rate gets no higher than about 3% during the term I would be about £750 pcm better off which is handy with my first child on the way.

I guess what I am asking is a little bit "Crystal Ball" but where do we think rates will be in 2/3 years time.

Would be interested to hear your thoughts!

Cheers

Joe

its collared at 2% currently but apparently HBOS are going to drop this to 0.001% next week.

BigAlinEmbra

1,629 posts

243 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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RBS do a nice and easily readable forecast.
http://www.rbs.com/content/economic/downloads/uk/f...

JOETHETOE

Original Poster:

548 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Thankyou for that, but its really the third year i.e 2010-2011 that I am worried about.

The other oprtion is to see out my current product (Sept 09) and fix onto what should be a decent rate?

Cheers

Its very hard call to make as its all guesstimating really

Cheers

Somewhatfoolish

5,104 posts

217 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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They can't go much lower... they can get a hell of a lot higher smile

JOETHETOE

Original Poster:

548 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Fair comment, might just stick mine out till sept and then fix on 3.5% ish.

scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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This is not financial advice, cos I dont know you or your circumstances. That said I would be very wary of signing up to a tracker atthe moment.

Personally I'd be keeping an eye on long term fixes, and see where they go over the next few months.

JOETHETOE

Original Poster:

548 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Thanks guys, I am going to hold out until September,

Edited by JOETHETOE on Monday 8th December 14:45

Somewhatfoolish

5,104 posts

217 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Only thing that worries me about holding out that long... inflation could easily raise its ugly head by July, going by past history.

Thing is, 3%ish is fk all. I'm not saying it's likely, but no reason we couldn't have 20% interest rates by this time next year. But then again, I am very paranoid.

scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Only thing that worries me about holding out that long... inflation could easily raise its ugly head by July, going by past history.

Thing is, 3%ish is fk all. I'm not saying it's likely, but no reason we couldn't have 20% interest rates by this time next year. But then again, I am very paranoid.
Which is why I reocmmend keeping an eye on long term fixes (or getting your broker to do it for you). If you have to pay an ERC to get onto a really good 5 or 10 year fix then it may be worth doing simply to by some longer term rate security.

allgonepetetong

1,188 posts

250 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Only thing that worries me about holding out that long... inflation could easily raise its ugly head by July, going by past history.

Thing is, 3%ish is fk all. I'm not saying it's likely, but no reason we couldn't have 20% interest rates by this time next year. But then again, I am very paranoid.
20% interest rates would have everyone defaulting on their mortgage payments!

Somewhatfoolish

5,104 posts

217 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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allgonepetetong said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Only thing that worries me about holding out that long... inflation could easily raise its ugly head by July, going by past history.

Thing is, 3%ish is fk all. I'm not saying it's likely, but no reason we couldn't have 20% interest rates by this time next year. But then again, I am very paranoid.
20% interest rates would have everyone defaulting on their mortgage payments!
Not if the pound was worthless smile

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Somewhatfoolish said:
allgonepetetong said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Only thing that worries me about holding out that long... inflation could easily raise its ugly head by July, going by past history.

Thing is, 3%ish is fk all. I'm not saying it's likely, but no reason we couldn't have 20% interest rates by this time next year. But then again, I am very paranoid.
20% interest rates would have everyone defaulting on their mortgage payments!
Not if the pound was worthless smile
I hardly think that the banks or the Bank of England would instigate a policy which would mean 80% of homes to be in default and repossessed with no-one to buy them!

Somewhatfoolish

5,104 posts

217 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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JustinP1 said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
allgonepetetong said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Only thing that worries me about holding out that long... inflation could easily raise its ugly head by July, going by past history.

Thing is, 3%ish is fk all. I'm not saying it's likely, but no reason we couldn't have 20% interest rates by this time next year. But then again, I am very paranoid.
20% interest rates would have everyone defaulting on their mortgage payments!
Not if the pound was worthless smile
I hardly think that the banks or the Bank of England would instigate a policy which would mean 80% of homes to be in default and repossessed with no-one to buy them!
Imagine you had a mortgage in Zimbabwe for 50 thousand dollars from 1980... do you really think you'd mind a massive interest rate when you're a gazillionaire?

Massive inflation would mean much higher interest rates could be tolerated by home owners.

Please note this is not a prediction of 20% interest rates, just saying that it's possible.

Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Take a look at the Bank of England's rates since 1964 then tell me interest rates can't go significantly higher:

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/statistics/rates/ba...

blackvanman

71 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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My fix is up at the end of December (by chance not skill!) and I like the look of a 10-year fix at 4.99% as I don't particularly enjoy rooting around every 2/3 years for the best fixed rate, plus it typically costs me £1k each time.

But with rates at 2.0% and forecast to fall to 1.0% next year, is this madness?

Need £190k, c50% LTV assuming it's fallen 30% since August 2007.

I haven't seen any killer short term fixed rate deals, so the alternative I guess would be to stick it on a tracker, like HSBC's 1.64% over base.

2 years of this would "save" £3,000 but then the 10-year rate only needs to have shifted to say 5.5% by that point to wipe those savings out over the remainder of the loan.

Help! Someone who is good with money tell me what to do!

scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Black van man, you have mail.