Self Assessment (another question)
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Hi guys
I am currently in the second year of University and have only a small part time job and my grant and loan which I live on.
Prior to going to uni I was in the process of setting up a partnership but this did not go ahead as my fortunes changed. When I had this change of plan we informed our accountant who sorted out all the paperwork etc. 12 months later back last year I received a self assessment tax return for the year 2007-2008. I was employed for 2 months (April and May 2007) of that and payed by paye and then I went to stay in Spain until September 2007 when I started uni.
When I got the form I called up HMRC and explained the situation and they told me to fill in the relevant boxes with zero earnings and return it to them with a covering letter. I did this in about October/November 2008. Fast forward to January 19th 2009. I get about three letters from HMRC on says I have a few days left to file my online return, and others say that I need to pay for a years worth of NI contributions (my casual employer does this for me)
I spoke to a lady in the call centre and she says that she has no record of my self assessment form arriving or any letter and said that it should not be an issue but I need to call up my local office in Cardiff. That was Thursday last week. I tried all day Thursday and I couldn't get through, the same Friday and also Monday and Today. No joy. My question is, what do I do. Can I go to the local office and speak to someone there? Do they have a help desk of sorts? I guess I wont have to pay a fine as I don't owe a penny but working it out I earned about £4.5k after tax in the two months I was working (April and May 2007) so I guess they actually owe me money. What do I do? Any suggestions?
Dave
I am currently in the second year of University and have only a small part time job and my grant and loan which I live on.
Prior to going to uni I was in the process of setting up a partnership but this did not go ahead as my fortunes changed. When I had this change of plan we informed our accountant who sorted out all the paperwork etc. 12 months later back last year I received a self assessment tax return for the year 2007-2008. I was employed for 2 months (April and May 2007) of that and payed by paye and then I went to stay in Spain until September 2007 when I started uni.
When I got the form I called up HMRC and explained the situation and they told me to fill in the relevant boxes with zero earnings and return it to them with a covering letter. I did this in about October/November 2008. Fast forward to January 19th 2009. I get about three letters from HMRC on says I have a few days left to file my online return, and others say that I need to pay for a years worth of NI contributions (my casual employer does this for me)
I spoke to a lady in the call centre and she says that she has no record of my self assessment form arriving or any letter and said that it should not be an issue but I need to call up my local office in Cardiff. That was Thursday last week. I tried all day Thursday and I couldn't get through, the same Friday and also Monday and Today. No joy. My question is, what do I do. Can I go to the local office and speak to someone there? Do they have a help desk of sorts? I guess I wont have to pay a fine as I don't owe a penny but working it out I earned about £4.5k after tax in the two months I was working (April and May 2007) so I guess they actually owe me money. What do I do? Any suggestions?
Dave
Which return don't they have:
Your personal return?
Your partner's personal return?
The Partnership return?
The penalty rules are different for personal returns compared to partnership returns.
As I have said a few times this week, the Revenue CANNOT levy a fine on late personal tax returns if there is no personal Income Tax libility outstanding at 31 January.
With partnership returns, the £100 penalty is ALWAYS chargeable if the return is late. This is because partnerships do not have tax liabilities in their own right. As a result, the late filing penalty is not linked to the tax liability situation - as there is none.
Your personal return?
Your partner's personal return?
The Partnership return?
The penalty rules are different for personal returns compared to partnership returns.
As I have said a few times this week, the Revenue CANNOT levy a fine on late personal tax returns if there is no personal Income Tax libility outstanding at 31 January.
With partnership returns, the £100 penalty is ALWAYS chargeable if the return is late. This is because partnerships do not have tax liabilities in their own right. As a result, the late filing penalty is not linked to the tax liability situation - as there is none.
Eric Mc said:
Which return don't they have:
Your personal return?
Your partner's personal return?
The Partnership return?
The penalty rules are different for personal returns compared to partnership returns.
As I have said a few times this week, the Revenue CANNOT levy a fine on late personal tax returns if there is no personal Income Tax libility outstanding at 31 January.
With partnership returns, the £100 penalty is ALWAYS chargeable if the return is late. This is because partnerships do not have tax liabilities in their own right. As a result, the late filing penalty is not linked to the tax liability situation - as there is none.
They say they do not have anything. Which I guess is understandable as I sent them all together.Your personal return?
Your partner's personal return?
The Partnership return?
The penalty rules are different for personal returns compared to partnership returns.
As I have said a few times this week, the Revenue CANNOT levy a fine on late personal tax returns if there is no personal Income Tax libility outstanding at 31 January.
With partnership returns, the £100 penalty is ALWAYS chargeable if the return is late. This is because partnerships do not have tax liabilities in their own right. As a result, the late filing penalty is not linked to the tax liability situation - as there is none.
Dave
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