1car1 Going into Administration...
1car1 Going into Administration...
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Gibson70

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464 posts

236 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Anyone knows who is the name of the administrator or contact number for the above car hire company?

Thanks

dannyleeds

1 posts

212 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Call there Leeds ofiice. Administrators are on site Today as are all the current members of staff. If you need more help 07590478734.

Danny

tat6911

1 posts

212 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Gibson70 said:
Anyone knows who is the name of the administrator or contact number for the above car hire company?

Thanks
Why do you want to know?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

229 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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were these guys running long?

b'cause from nothing, they just seemed to be everywhere overnight... but i guess now theyll be gone again

Gibson70

Original Poster:

464 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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tat6911 said:
Gibson70 said:
Anyone knows who is the name of the administrator or contact number for the above car hire company?

Thanks
Why do you want to know?
I just wanted the contact name and the number of the Administrators......I don't really want to say why on the open forum. smile


Gibson70

Original Poster:

464 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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dannyleeds said:
Call there Leeds ofiice. Administrators are on site Today as are all the current members of staff. If you need more help 07590478734.

Danny
Will call you 1st thing on Monday morning.

Ash 996 GT2

3,836 posts

272 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
were these guys running long?

b'cause from nothing, they just seemed to be everywhere overnight... but i guess now theyll be gone again
20 years

fieldl

1,320 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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There Man Airport branch is in the same building that I have an office.
Will be a shame to see them go, it'll hurt Regus too.

GnuBee

1,339 posts

246 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Not sure if they'll actually be gone as such - a potential owner(s) has, apparently, been identified.


AMCDan

2,855 posts

239 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Price Waterhouse Coopers i believe

babeistoo

2 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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ummm sorry to inteupt... but there is no buyer for 1car1... it is in administrationa nd the company is going to be wound down within 5 weeks.. it's ok asking who the administrators are... which are price water house coopers... but there are 800 people losing their jobs.. that should be the main concern and the customer who at present are on the road with cars that might not legally be allowed to be used anymore.

4F6

156 posts

226 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Agreed, 1car1 is in the process of being wound up. I understand some of the staff have already been made redundant and that the remainder will follow unfortunately.

Customers business is being transferred to other rental companies.

Sad but not surprising with the current state of the industry.

babeistoo

2 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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ye totalluy agreed my partner is one of those who will be losing his job... which is sad... unfortunately they have only just found out today... the company owe over 40 million to their finaciers.. they were not allowed to tell the customers and also they are not allowed to rent out anymore cars which is pointless ending their rental agents into work.. the worst thing is that they were told they might not get paid but happily price water house coopers have promised to do all they can to guarentee that the workers will get a full months pay.

1

2,732 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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babeistoo said:
the company owe over 40 million to their finaciers..
That is their just short term funding, their total liabilities were over £116m but something doesn't add up, their total assets were over £128m and they made £12m profit last year.

I appreciate they are last years figures and the industry has had a very tough year but something is not right. I suspect they have done an "Antony Worrell Thompson" and refused to give guarantees to the banks.

Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't resurrect the brand and are simply using the banks as an excuse to get shot of some bad debt. In fact I don't think 1car1 Ltd has actually gone has it? As most of the business was run through their other company, with 1car1 as the trading name.

Edited by 1 on Wednesday 18th March 22:05

Gibson70

Original Poster:

464 posts

236 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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This company, like many others, has problems with cash flow. All too often people who run companies (large and small) fail to recognise the importance of cash management and even though the company is profitable unless it can collect cash in a timely manner and pay creditors when they are due the company will fail.

Their problem was that they couldn’t collect the money from the customers fast enough to pay the bills from their suppliers and the HP charges.

My guess is that this company could simply fold and its assets sold off if there isn’t a way of changing the business model so cash collection can be substantially improved – one way might be to use invoice factoring but its expensive and will reduce the profitability.


merseyboy

365 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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1 said:
babeistoo said:
the company owe over 40 million to their finaciers..
Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't resurrect the brand and are simply using the banks as an excuse to get shot of some bad debt. I

Edited by 1 on Wednesday 18th March 22:05
A lot of people are doing this.

skwdenyer

18,707 posts

271 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Gibson70 said:
This company, like many others, has problems with cash flow. All too often people who run companies (large and small) fail to recognise the importance of cash management and even though the company is profitable unless it can collect cash in a timely manner and pay creditors when they are due the company will fail.

Their problem was that they couldn’t collect the money from the customers fast enough to pay the bills from their suppliers and the HP charges.

My guess is that this company could simply fold and its assets sold off if there isn’t a way of changing the business model so cash collection can be substantially improved – one way might be to use invoice factoring but its expensive and will reduce the profitability.
With respect, factoring - if the quality of the debt is good enough - is definitely not expensive these days. In many cases it can cost no more than, say, a bank overdraft. It is also generally accepted to be cheaper than not trading any longer.

skwdenyer

18,707 posts

271 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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1 said:
babeistoo said:
the company owe over 40 million to their finaciers..
That is their just short term funding, their total liabilities were over £116m but something doesn't add up, their total assets were over £128m and they made £12m profit last year.

I appreciate they are last years figures and the industry has had a very tough year but something is not right. I suspect they have done an "Antony Worrell Thompson" and refused to give guarantees to the banks.

Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't resurrect the brand and are simply using the banks as an excuse to get shot of some bad debt. In fact I don't think 1car1 Ltd has actually gone has it? As most of the business was run through their other company, with 1car1 as the trading name.

Edited by 1 on Wednesday 18th March 22:05
How did they finance their cars? Did their assets include the book value of the cars? And any properties owned? Were those assets marked to market, or booked on a reducing balance basis? Had they expanded by acquisition, and included significant goodwill on their balance sheet? Had the capitalised expenses to bolster their balance sheet?

Having been caught out with a client with a paper asset base of £28m and realisable assets of £27k (yes, really), the headline balance sheet asset figure is meaningless without more detail.

telecat

8,528 posts

272 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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Are Leeds Commercial OK? They were the original starters of the 1-Car-1 hire business and look to be untouched.