New boss is making life a misery.
New boss is making life a misery.
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Mr POD

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5,153 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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So, almost 3 months with a new boss (the old one has been sidelined into a consultant role)

This new guy is a relentless bully.

He's not happy with anything I touch, or any piece of work I do. If I have a meeting with him it ends up with him only just able to contain his anger.

I know he's the same with other staff, but my experience is not a good fit with the work I have to do so it's going to take longer as I'm learning, and TBH If it was perfect it still wouldn't be good enough. I know I've been singled out for special treatment. He's talking about if I don't improve he'll have to look at disciplinary matters to force improvememt.

Last weekend I knew that I couldn't take much more.

What's next?

Legend83

10,593 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Is there anyone further up the chain you can escalate this behaviour to?

Keep a diary of un-called for aggression/bullying in case you need to provide evidence?

randomman

2,215 posts

220 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Raise a grivence against him. Its the professional thing to do in this situation and he wont(read:shouldn't) get his mates to beat you up over it!

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Mr POD said:
So, almost 3 months with a new boss (the old one has been sidelined into a consultant role)

This new guy is a relentless bully.

He's not happy with anything I touch, or any piece of work I do. If I have a meeting with him it ends up with him only just able to contain his anger.

I know he's the same with other staff, but my experience is not a good fit with the work I have to do so it's going to take longer as I'm learning, and TBH If it was perfect it still wouldn't be good enough. I know I've been singled out for special treatment. He's talking about if I don't improve he'll have to look at disciplinary matters to force improvememt.

Last weekend I knew that I couldn't take much more.

What's next?
Dude sorry to hear this, can your not address this with HR or something?

toasty

8,419 posts

251 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Make an official complaint about him to your HR dept.

Or leave.

Or just put up with it.

Or VBRJ.

Foxtrot Oscar

285 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Tell him to shove it? Go above him or knock the tt right out!

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Offer him out...

Just the pair of you - outside - tops off and Queensbury Rules hehe

Fidgits

17,202 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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make a formal complaint.

If he's going to be going in the direction of disciplinary action you need to get pro-active...

If you put in a complaint first saying he is expecting too much and not giving appropriate guidance or support, then he cant then start that procedure against you without proving he first tried to help.

f13ldy

1,432 posts

232 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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I recently had a boss like that whilst in a contracting role.

Turned up for work a little bit hungover on a Monday, she started to drip on.

I got up and walked out. However, not really the best move I've ever made.

But C'est La Vie. Life is too short and all that...

HUW JONES

2,005 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Speak to your union.
Raise an official Grievance.
Go off sick due to stress.
...then some more of the above punishments perhaps.

andy400

11,826 posts

262 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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I'm far from an expert, but I have experienced an inadequate tosser just like him - a bad time for me that I only escaped by moving to a different job.

All's well that ends well, but I regret not documenting everything he said and did to me, and not taking it higher before it affected me adversely.

Taking it higher may be scary, but then so is the outcome of letting him carry on. If your complaint doesn't work and you have to leave, you probably haven't lost anything - you would probably have to leave anyway before he drove you to something more serious - and you may have grounds for constructive dismissal or similar.

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Send him an email and in the subject field put "do you know what nemesis means?" then get up and walk out.

Mattygooner

5,304 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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jizz in his coffee?



Go to HR, if everyone is feeling agrieved he will be out the door.

Prometheus

367 posts

214 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Follow him into the gents and administer full VBRJ. Hopefully he'll be too embarrassed to admit to a bumming in public.

ukwill

10,287 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Find out where he lives and burn his house down. Whilst he's in it.

That'll learn him.

David87M3

1,470 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Im sorry your having issues like this...
I can only say that we had a manager like this and he didnt last long. In my line of work I see the tossers come and go all the time.
Is he younger than you? just promoted to manager level? Usually bullies at work are that way becasue they are either insecure,incompitent or even just out of their comfort zone and dont know how to handle the "managment" role.

Keep notes of everything and keep all emails and if possible forward them home so that if worst was to happen and your kicked out you have a copy of emails off site.

Good luck

Invisible man

39,731 posts

315 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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The only reason people like this behave in this manner is because they are in an uncomfortable situation themselves or have a serious insecurity issue, find it and exploit it.

failing that confront him in the toilets, impress upon him your displeasure at his attitude whilst prodding him in the chest with a dripping bog brush

Zippee

14,154 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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andy400 said:
I'm far from an expert, but I have experienced an inadequate tosser just like him - a bad time for me that I only escaped by moving to a different job.

All's well that ends well, but I regret not documenting everything he said and did to me, and not taking it higher before it affected me adversely.

Taking it higher may be scary, but then so is the outcome of letting him carry on. If your complaint doesn't work and you have to leave, you probably haven't lost anything - you would probably have to leave anyway before he drove you to something more serious - and you may have grounds for constructive dismissal or similar.
I had pretty much exactly the same thing but with a female boss. I put up with it for ages and never went to HR as I was scared what it may do to my career and also what she may make up to counter any complaint I made.

Looking back I wish to god I'd taken that step and stood up for myself, that or punched the b!tch in the face!!

shirt

25,548 posts

232 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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tell your wife about it POD, then take her into work and introduce them. the resulting argument should continue long enough for you to finish all your work and a full resto on a mk2 cav hehe

Chim Chim

739 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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From personal experience:-
1 - Make formal complaint against manager to HR
2 - HR investigate as per company rules
3 - HR find Manager not at fault
4 - Manager instigates disciplinary action against you
5 - Managers "evidence" starts the date you told him of point 1
6 - HR investigate but not as per company rules
7 - You try to get them to follow rules - without complete success
8 - Get written warning and told to improve in 3mths
9 - get signed off sick for two weeks
10 - Return and hand in notice to manager
11 - Manager ignores you for most of morning
12 - Manager discovers at lunchtime you have been explaining to everyone in company that you are leaving and he is the reason
13 - Get told to clear desk and escorted off premises
14 - Find out about a year later that MD has made it known you're never to work for company again.

Forgot to say - you have my sympathy, I hope it works out

Edited by Chim Chim on Thursday 19th March 13:50