Signs overlooking motorway
Signs overlooking motorway
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EINSIGN

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5,638 posts

277 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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We would like to put a large sign on the side of our building with our company name on. This will then be visible from the M1 motorway.

Before we go ahead, do we need permission to do this? There are obviously plenty of signs visible on buildings from motorways, did they need to get permission or is this simply allowed?

Thanks

Eric Mc

125,904 posts

296 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Planning permission is usally required for any sort of public signage - overlooking motorways included.

ginettag27

7,159 posts

300 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Depending on the size you'll possibly need Planning Permission for this.

Have a quick read of this (it's only 33 pages).

http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningan...


ETA : from the above link / pdf

"
Classes of advertisement benefiting from deemed consent
The rules enable certain ‘specified classes’ of advertisement to be displayed
without application being made to the planning authority. There are 14 such
classes of outdoor advertisement, each with its own particular conditions. So
the practical effect is that the number of advertisements in that class, their
size and duration of display, are limited for each deemed consent. There
are also stricter rules for the display of deemed consent advertisements in
any Area of Special Control of Advertisements. Provided that the particular
advertisement you propose to display conforms entirely to all the relevant
provisions of its own class, you do not need the planning authority’s
consent to display it. If you are in any doubt whether your advertisement
benefits from deemed consent, you would be well advised to consult the
planning authority before you display it.
"

and

"
Class 5: advertisements on business premises
Class 5 gives consent for a wide variety of notices, signs and advertisements
to draw attention to any commercial services, goods for sale, or any other
services available at the premises where the advertisement is being displayed.
‘Business premises’ means any building in which a professional, commercial
or industrial undertaking is being carried on, or any commercial services
are being provided for the public. This term would include:
office buildings
"

and further

"
Class 5 is not intended to permit all forms of outdoor advertising on any
business premises; it only permits advertisements for the goods or services
available at the particular premises. This means advertisements which refer to:
the business or other activity at the premises;
the goods for sale or the services available; and/or
the name and qualifications of the firm or person providing the service
in the premises.
An advertisement permitted by Class 5 must not:
have any letters, figures, symbols or similar features in the design over
0.75 of a metre in height, or 0.3 of a metre in height if they are in any
Area of Special Control of Advertisements;
have its highest part at more than 4.6 metres above ground-level, or
3.6 metres in any Area of Special Control of Advertisements;
have its highest part above the level of the bottom of the first-floor
window in the wall where the advertisement is;
be illuminated, unless the illumination is intended to indicate that
medical or similar services or supplies are available at the premises; and
if the premises are in any Area of Special Control of Advertisements,
exceed in area 10 per cent of the external face of the building,
measured up to a height of 3.6 metres above ground-level.
Additionally, if the business premises is a shop, an advertisement may be
displayed only on an external wall which has a shop window in it.
"

Edited by ginettag27 on Wednesday 25th March 12:29

EINSIGN

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

277 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Planning permission is usally required for any sort of public signage - overlooking motorways included.
Permission is never normally obtained when companies put signs on their building overlooking normal roads, such as high street shops. I wanted to know how this differs when they overlook motorways or similar.

I have emailed our local planning authority so will await their reply.

ginettag27

7,159 posts

300 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Doh!

Don't email them, give them a call.

Eric Mc

125,904 posts

296 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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EINSIGN said:
Eric Mc said:
Planning permission is usally required for any sort of public signage - overlooking motorways included.
Permission is never normally obtained when companies put signs on their building overlooking normal roads, such as high street shops. I wanted to know how this differs when they overlook motorways or similar.

I have emailed our local planning authority so will await their reply.
I was going on the planning applications that appear in our local paper every week. There does seem to be quite a few in respect of "shop frontage" displays or "illuminated signs" so there are obviously some requirements to be met for some aspects of sign displays.

EINSIGN

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

277 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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ginettag27 said:
Doh!

Don't email them, give them a call.
Why?

stevieb

5,253 posts

298 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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EINSIGN said:
ginettag27 said:
Doh!

Don't email them, give them a call.
Why?
They dont respond to emails, but will generally give advice over the phone as they cant be accountable for it.. Anthing in writing can be used against them..

But generally the planners are people are will be happy to help.

EINSIGN

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

277 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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stevieb said:
EINSIGN said:
ginettag27 said:
Doh!

Don't email them, give them a call.
Why?
They dont respond to emails, but will generally give advice over the phone as they cant be accountable for it.. Anthing in writing can be used against them..

But generally the planners are people are will be happy to help.
I understand, thanks for the advice.

Martial Arts Man

6,703 posts

217 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Get yourself one of those farmer's trailers that you see advert-ed up on the M40.

They must be semi-legal as Jag have one.

If permission for your idea was readily available, the M-ways would have turned into one big advertising parade already.

EINSIGN

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

277 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Martial Arts Man said:
Get yourself one of those farmer's trailers that you see advert-ed up on the M40.

They must be semi-legal as Jag have one.

If permission for your idea was readily available, the M-ways would have turned into one big advertising parade already.
I own a building that is around 50ft away from the motorway. No land for trailers etc. If we put a sign on the side it will be visible from the motorway.

There are lots of signs on buildings visible from motorways, before we go ahead and spend money I just want to clarify this will be ok.

Eric Mc

125,904 posts

296 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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That is certainly the case where the M6 cuts through the Birmingham area.
There are lots of company names and logos visible from the motorway. However, most of these aren't "advertising" signs in the traditional sense but more in the way of the business names associated with the owners or the occupiers of the buildings.

EINSIGN

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

277 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Eric Mc said:
That is certainly the case where the M6 cuts through the Birmingham area.
There are lots of company names and logos visible from the motorway. However, most of these aren't "advertising" signs in the traditional sense but more in the way of the business names associated with the owners or the occupiers of the buildings.
Exactly, we are not looking to sell the spot as advertising space just display our company name.

KevF

1,996 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Would this not be covered by the 'temporary' advertising remit that allows you to advertise for 30 days?

Make the sign removable then stick it up for 29 days remove for 3 then back up for 29 days...hehe

If there are others around you doing the same, could you ask someone you know and trust, if they have permission (they will probably say they have though)..