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EINSIGN

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5,638 posts

277 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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I have an idea for a component that could help with the general safety of airplanes etc. I don’t mind showing the idea to someone after signing an ND agreement.

Does anyone know a contact in BA, Virgin or other that would take a serious look? Thanks


paoloh

8,617 posts

235 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Try Eric Mc, oh wait a minute..

jamoor

14,506 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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You would be better off seeing boeing or airbus.

Landlord

12,689 posts

288 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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EINSIGN said:
I don’t mind showing the idea to someone after signing an ND agreement.
I'm not sure they're worth the paper they're written on if the idea is good enough. I mean, have you got the funds to prove that Airbus etc. nicked your idea. They've the resources to make it financially punative for you to do so.

That said, how about funding the idea yourself. Banks will honour ND agreements.

Just to clarify - the above is all "IMO".

Edited by Landlord on Thursday 16th April 10:45

KingRichard

10,146 posts

263 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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BAE?

Is it a mechanical device, electronic or IT?

EINSIGN

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

277 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Its a mechanical device.

BigBen

12,161 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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How developed is the idea, just on paper or do you have a prototype ? The more developed it is the easier it should be for you to prove it was your idea in future. Signing an ND is a good idea and affords you some protection.

Ben

dfen5

2,398 posts

243 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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If your idea's a sharp stick to poke users of mobiles during take off I've already patented that, sorry.

Unless it's specific to one model of plane, you'd be better off creating a protype and selling it to each company on its merits. I would add that anything fitted to an aircraft has a few hoops to jump through first..




EINSIGN

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5,638 posts

277 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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It’s a generic idea that would work with all aircraft WHEELS. I’ve had the idea for many years, have a drawing of what it does and other general information that I am willing to share with the right people…

Roop

6,018 posts

315 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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EINSIGN said:
Its a mechanical device.
Agree that if it's specifically for Installation on the aircraft, better to speak to the airframers direct. Airlines are just end users of the product.


shirt

25,548 posts

232 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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how about the CAA? they should know enough to know what applications your device would be suitable to, what legislation it needs to adhere to etc. going to manufacturers with CAA approval will give you more clout imo

dfen5

2,398 posts

243 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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EINSIGN said:
It’s a generic idea that would work with all aircraft WHEELS. I’ve had the idea for many years, have a drawing of what it does and other general information that I am willing to share with the right people…
Good luck eek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRzWp67PIMw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dv_y_3EK0

roadsweeper

3,790 posts

305 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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If you have a reasonable degree of confidence in the idea patent it before speaking to anyone in the industry to which it applies. This will cost you some money but have the advantage of providing much stronger protection and also checking if the design is a genuinely unique concept.

As earlier posters have said, an NDA is only enforceable if you can compete with the financial/legal power of the infringing party. This does also apply to a patent but to a lesser degree in my opinion - i.e. a patent is much more of a deterrent and easier to prove infringement against, particularly for a mechanical device.

Landlord

12,689 posts

288 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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Is it an idea to bring the wheels up-to-speed before landing? I once heard that this was a problem (it was many years ago if it's no longer an issue) as "stationary" wheels go through tyres very quickly when screeching/getting up to speed on landing.

I came up with a very simple idea but I assume it wouldn't work because it's so simple engineers are bound to have thought of it and discounted it for some reason.

Goochie

5,804 posts

250 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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Landlord said:
I came up with a very simple idea but I assume it wouldn't work because it's so simple engineers are bound to have thought of it and discounted it for some reason.
Using the air flowing around the dropped under-carriage to start the wheels turning? I've had this idea too.

Landlord

12,689 posts

288 months

Saturday 18th April 2009
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Goochie said:
Landlord said:
I came up with a very simple idea but I assume it wouldn't work because it's so simple engineers are bound to have thought of it and discounted it for some reason.
Using the air flowing around the dropped under-carriage to start the wheels turning? I've had this idea too.
:scowl: you stole my thoughts!! :tinhat:

Simpo Two

93,065 posts

296 months

Saturday 18th April 2009
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If it's that good I'd see a patents lawyer first and then head to the Patents Office.

Merritt

1,670 posts

269 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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Landlord said:
Is it an idea to bring the wheels up-to-speed before landing? I once heard that this was a problem (it was many years ago if it's no longer an issue) as "stationary" wheels go through tyres very quickly when screeching/getting up to speed on landing.

I came up with a very simple idea but I assume it wouldn't work because it's so simple engineers are bound to have thought of it and discounted it for some reason.
Simple answer is weight... weight costs money in the form of fuel for every flight & tyres are cheaper smile

Landlord

12,689 posts

288 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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Merritt said:
Simple answer is weight...
Of course! Cheers. thumbup

EINSIGN

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

277 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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Landlord said:
Merritt said:
Simple answer is weight...
Of course! Cheers. thumbup
Design the wheel hub so that it collects air, rotating as the landing gear is lowered. No weight needed.