Fish and Chip shops
Fish and Chip shops
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randlemarcus

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13,646 posts

262 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Possible opportunity to buy an old chip shop has arisen. Used to be a thriving business until 2003, and closed due to bereavement, so no goodwill etc.

Location remains fairly good, no huge downsides that I can see.

My impression of chippies is that they are fairly good revenue generators, with healthy cashflows.

Anyone got previous or current experiences?

HRG

72,863 posts

270 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Where are the old customers going now? Why should they come back other than you being nearer? I tend to be a creature of habit when it comes to chippies.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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There's a chap on here that owns a few of them.

There was a (highly amusing) thread a while back about someone wanting a chippy to batter a supermarket bought sausage, he's on there as I remember.

pgilc1

40,169 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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randlemarcus said:
Possible opportunity to buy an old chip shop has arisen. Used to be a thriving business until 2003, and closed due to bereavement, so no goodwill etc.

Location remains fairly good, no huge downsides that I can see.

My impression of chippies is that they are fairly good revenue generators, with healthy cashflows.

Anyone got previous or current experiences?
Have you any experience in this field?

Stu R

21,701 posts

246 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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relative of mine owns a few of them in yorkshire.

As for being revenue generators, well done properly they can make lots. He's very well heeled off the back of them. If the location's good I can see it being worth a punt. Plus it gives you an excuse to go and sample all the chippies in the area to get a measure of the competition, win win biggrin

KingRichard

10,146 posts

263 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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For fk sake, do a proper one. Beer Batter, Beef Dripping, Crunchy Rock Salt etc...

All the chippies round my way are run by turkish or indian families and they just do everything as cheap as possible.

Do a deal with a local fish supplier, rather than going the easy route of buying tones of frozen cod from M&J Seafood. Get your burgers from the local butcher etc, and your rolls from a decent bakery.

You can knock up your own pungent sauces using a mostly mayonnaise base, and give out sauce free of charge rather than charge me 5p for a sachet of tommy K when I've just spent £30.00 on fish.

In fact... I'm now browsing Daltons Weekly for a chip shop biggrin

Oh, and if you're anywhere near a lively town centre, stay open until the clubs kick out... I for one am sick of choosing between Donner Meat, and Chicken Nuggets when I've had a few. Some good quality grub would be awesome.

Reidy10_0

1,123 posts

235 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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http://www.anstrutherfishbar.co.uk/

This is a gold mine; I had to queue out the shop and around the corner for chips.
40 min wait and the girl from the shop was out taking orders in the street.

Good food will always sell well.

ShadownINja

80,170 posts

313 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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Interestingly, I hear that fast food is doing well because people can't afford to go to the usual posh restaurant. That said, I'd rather attempt to cook something posh than substitute <insert favourite nice restaurant> for a McDonalds.

Reidy10_0

1,123 posts

235 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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thegavster said:
There are two chippies in my town (busy commuter town), one is old school chinese, about £5 for small cod and chips.

The other one is new and closer to the station by a couple of hundred metres, cod and chips is about £7+ and they are always busy.

Seems people will pay happily if the quality is there.

In these recessionary times, cheaper food sources (i.e. fish and chips as opposed to an Indian take away) are going to do well.
A fish supper is not a cheap meal anymore.
£5 or £6.

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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Done well, they can make lots of money. Done average, not so good. Used to be one outside Hallam Uni - people queued 30-40 deep to get served and that didn't include the people in the cafe either. Same with another back near where I'm from (Carvers in Ashby/Shorpe) - they've got the best fishcakes I've tasted, home made to their own recipe, people again queue out the door 50-60 deep at times. Quality is everything IMHO.

KingRichard

10,146 posts

263 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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thegavster said:
Reidy10_0 said:
thegavster said:
There are two chippies in my town (busy commuter town), one is old school chinese, about £5 for small cod and chips.

The other one is new and closer to the station by a couple of hundred metres, cod and chips is about £7+ and they are always busy.

Seems people will pay happily if the quality is there.

In these recessionary times, cheaper food sources (i.e. fish and chips as opposed to an Indian take away) are going to do well.
A fish supper is not a cheap meal anymore.
£5 or £6.
Errr, yes it is. What's your definition of cheap, sub £3?

Where on earth do you get a takeaway hot meal for less than £3?
A Happy Meal is your only option biglaugh

JJCW

2,449 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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KingRichard said:
A Happy Meal is your only option biglaugh
Ahh the 'Happy Meal', one of the most ironically named products on the market!

GPSS

694 posts

242 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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This is strange, as I have just come back from a fry up in a local cafe. I have not been in a traditional british cafe for 20 years or so.
I had tesco value beans, 2 mushrooms, some french fries, 1 very small egg fried to oblivion 2 sawdust sausages, a rasher of cheap bacon, 1 slice of chemical bread, and a cup of tea. All crap for £4.75.
No condiments on the table, rather 1 brown sauce bottle shared around the whole cafe.
I would pay £6.75 for prime bacon sausage eggs, heinz beans doorstep bread etc.
I just sat there and thought surely it can be done better than this.

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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GPSS said:
This is strange, as I have just come back from a fry up in a local cafe. I have not been in a traditional british cafe for 20 years or so.
I had tesco value beans, 2 mushrooms, some french fries, 1 very small egg fried to oblivion 2 sawdust sausages, a rasher of cheap bacon, 1 slice of chemical bread, and a cup of tea. All crap for £4.75.
No condiments on the table, rather 1 brown sauce bottle shared around the whole cafe.
I would pay £6.75 for prime bacon sausage eggs, heinz beans doorstep bread etc.
I just sat there and thought surely it can be done better than this.
Quick someone send in Ramsey biggrin

johnfm

13,751 posts

281 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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thegavster said:
There are two chippies in my town (busy commuter town), one is old school chinese, about £5 for small cod and chips.

The other one is new and closer to the station by a couple of hundred metres, cod and chips is about £7+ and they are always busy.

Seems people will pay happily if the quality is there.

In these recessionary times, cheaper food sources (i.e. fish and chips as opposed to an Indian take away) are going to do well.
£7 for fish 'n' chips!!!!!!

fk me that's steep.

shirt

25,548 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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thegavster said:
Reidy10_0 said:
thegavster said:
There are two chippies in my town (busy commuter town), one is old school chinese, about £5 for small cod and chips.

The other one is new and closer to the station by a couple of hundred metres, cod and chips is about £7+ and they are always busy.

Seems people will pay happily if the quality is there.

In these recessionary times, cheaper food sources (i.e. fish and chips as opposed to an Indian take away) are going to do well.
A fish supper is not a cheap meal anymore.
£5 or £6.
Errr, yes it is. What's your definition of cheap, sub £3?

Where on earth do you get a takeaway hot meal for less than £3?
my local chippy does a 'normal' portion for about a fiver, or a 'special' which is a slightly smaller fish, small chips, and gravy peas or curry, for £2.60! best chippy in the area as well.

finding a decent chippy is one of the hardest things about moving towns, when i find one i'll stick to it no matter how much further away it is from my house.

and remember the golden rules of the chippy - fish & chips and related products only. if they serve burgers or pizza as well they are 90% assured to sell crap fish & chips.

therealpigdog

2,592 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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shirt said:
finding a decent chippy is one of the hardest things about moving towns, when i find one i'll stick to it no matter how much further away it is from my house.

and remember the golden rules of the chippy - fish & chips and related products only. if they serve burgers or pizza as well they are 90% assured to sell crap fish & chips.
yes

okgo

42,370 posts

229 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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johnfm said:
thegavster said:
There are two chippies in my town (busy commuter town), one is old school chinese, about £5 for small cod and chips.

The other one is new and closer to the station by a couple of hundred metres, cod and chips is about £7+ and they are always busy.

Seems people will pay happily if the quality is there.

In these recessionary times, cheaper food sources (i.e. fish and chips as opposed to an Indian take away) are going to do well.
£7 for fish 'n' chips!!!!!!

fk me that's steep.
Once you have tasted and seen the size of a Pisces cod and chips, you will know why. I live too close the the Chinese one to be arsed with it though.

Used to work at the one in Downing Street Farnham, if anyone knows it, great place, again line out the door at times and the owner was also well heeled off the back of it, I think he actually had a few.

okgo

42,370 posts

229 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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thegavster said:
For the money, the chinese one is damn good and overall better value, but Pisces is the one for quality.
Might go to the chinese one tonight. Got distracted by Pizza hut last time.

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

248 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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I'd agree with the 'get the quality right' comments. Here in Skegness we have a lot of fish & chip shops and the locals tend to use one or two that we know are the best!

The other thing about fish & chips shops is the cash only aspect wink