Brilliant P800/P900 Email software...
Brilliant P800/P900 Email software...
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catretriever

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2,090 posts

266 months

Tuesday 15th June 2004
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I've just installed the Smartner Duality email software on my P800, and it is brilliant! It basically makes my phone work like a Blackberry in that I can view all my work emails, reply to them, delete them etc and it all stays in sync with Outlook on my desktop! Oh...and it keeps a live GPRS connection going so that emails can be pushed to me.

Best of all, the server software just runs on my desktop machine, so the install didn't require any assistance from my IT dept.

Bloody Brilliant!

gixxer1000

786 posts

276 months

Tuesday 15th June 2004
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Sounds good. I have a P900 myself.

How security conscious is the company you work for, and were they happy to approve this? My lot are security nuts and I would therefore need to check they are happy with the built-in 128 bit symmetric key encryption (between Enterprise Gateway and the Push Client in the phone/pda).

cheers,
gixxer.
ps - how much did it cost you?

kylie

4,391 posts

281 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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I just recently got a P900 as well, so do you have to buy additional software to connect up your emails or its all to be set up on the phone itself?

Don

28,378 posts

308 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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catretriever said:
Oh...and it keeps a live GPRS connection going so that emails can be pushed to me.
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I'm going to get one of these P900s (eventually).

A "live" GPRS connection! Isn't this costing a fortune? Or do you pay by the byte/MB transferred so its "always on"?

I must say I want to sort out email addresses for the Company Directors that go to their mobiles and this sounds interesting...

catretriever

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2,090 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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Yes, you have to buy the software I'm afraid. They work it on a leasing basis, so you can pay monthly (about $5) or anually (about $42). These are the prices on www.handango.com, but if you are going to have a lot of users it may be better to speak to the company directly.

The open GPRS connection is indeed charged by the Mb, and you can limit the size of emails you download so it's not really that costly. It's worth checking exactly how your phone provider implements GPRS though. I am running mine on Orange and the phone can happily maintain a GPRS connection & still make & receive calls, but my colleague running the same phone on Vodafone cannot make/receive calls and GPRS simultaneously.

hope that helps

catretriever

Original Poster:

2,090 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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gixxer1000 said:
Sounds good. I have a P900 myself.

How security conscious is the company you work for, and were they happy to approve this? My lot are security nuts and I would therefore need to check they are happy with the built-in 128 bit symmetric key encryption (between Enterprise Gateway and the Push Client in the phone/pda).

cheers,
gixxer.
ps - how much did it cost you?



Well...ahem....reasonably security conscious I guess. The interesting thing is that I didn't need to make any adjustments on our fire wall at all.

I am currntly running it on a free trial basis, but see below for the costs.

>> Edited by catretriever on Wednesday 16th June 07:53

Don

28,378 posts

308 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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catretriever said:
Yes, you have to buy the software I'm afraid. They work it on a leasing basis, so you can pay monthly (about $5) or anually (about $42). These are the prices on www.handango.com, but if you are going to have a lot of users it may be better to speak to the company directly.

The open GPRS connection is indeed charged by the Mb, and you can limit the size of emails you download so it's not really that costly. It's worth checking exactly how your phone provider implements GPRS though. I am running mine on Orange and the phone can happily maintain a GPRS connection & still make & receive calls, but my colleague running the same phone on Vodafone cannot make/receive calls and GPRS simultaneously.

hope that helps



Certainly does, thanks. Hmmmmn! Roll on the P900!

arcturus

1,497 posts

287 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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kylie said:
I just recently got a P900 as well, so do you have to buy additional software to connect up your emails or its all to be set up on the phone itself?


Just to clarify the answer to this one; you do not need any extra software in order to send/receive emails from your P800/900. That functionality is built into the phone.

You only need extra software if you want to do advanced stuff like keeping automatically in sync with your desktop outlook wherevere you are in the world. Of course you can always do a sync with Outlook when you drop the phone into the cradle and again no extra software is required for this.

roop

6,018 posts

308 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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It *must* be a push from the desktop to the mobile, and then any mails sent from the mobile go out via a different mail gateway to that of the desktop.

Reason I say this is that if your mobile device is able to initiate access to a resource on your desktop machine with no firewall adjustments at all. then there is something very wrong with the firewall configuration and you are wide open.



All sounbd slike good stuff to me. I fancy a P900.

catretriever said:

...The interesting thing is that I didn't need to make any adjustments on our fire wall at all.

catretriever

Original Poster:

2,090 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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arcturus said:

kylie said:
I just recently got a P900 as well, so do you have to buy additional software to connect up your emails or its all to be set up on the phone itself?



Just to clarify the answer to this one; you do not need any extra software in order to send/receive emails from your P800/900. That functionality is built into the phone.

You only need extra software if you want to do advanced stuff like keeping automatically in sync with your desktop outlook wherevere you are in the world. Of course you can always do a sync with Outlook when you drop the phone into the cradle and again no extra software is required for this.


That's right....the email functionality I am talking about is akin to what you get with a Blackberry. The major difference being that emails are automatically pushed to your phone, as opposed to you having to manually pull them.

catretriever

Original Poster:

2,090 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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roop said:
It *must* be a push from the desktop to the mobile, and then any mails sent from the mobile go out via a different mail gateway to that of the desktop.

Reason I say this is that if your mobile device is able to initiate access to a resource on your desktop machine with no firewall adjustments at all. then there is something very wrong with the firewall configuration and you are wide open.


Yes I think you're right. The software has setup a new folder in my Outlook called "Protocol Mails". It seems that it uses this to keep everything in sync. When I perform an action on the phone like read or delete an email, I can see a GPRS transfer taking place after which a new mail briefly appears in this protocol folder on my Desktop, and the action is mirrored there.

All very clever stuff

Mr E

22,731 posts

283 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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Cool.

I just configure the thing to ping my POP3 account ever hour or so.

Wy work mail on the exchange server can bloody well wait.

judas

6,211 posts

283 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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Hmmm, this sounds very interesting. I assume you can use this to compose and send new e-mails through your corporate account? Also, does the client get installed to your desktop PC or the Exchange server? In other words, does it only work when your PC is switched on? Got to be worth $5 just to try it for a month.

catretriever

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2,090 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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Yes on all counts.

Emails composed on the phone appear to be sent from the corporate account (although they may not necessarily be routed that way). Yes the server software runs on the desktop pc which must be running (although outlook doesn't need to be left open).

The trial is free btw, so I would recommend having a fiddle with it )