Been offered a network job but...
Been offered a network job but...
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stin hambo

Original Poster:

627 posts

261 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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... I have only administered some simple Novell Small Business Servers about 4 years ago.

It looks like they are running Win98 (familiar) and NT4 servers in small clusters and need someone to keep an eye on things and sort out any problems.

I am not familiar with NT4 but I am being offered €1,000 a day for 10 days a month for 6 months.

Shall I blag it and study like a crazed monkey or turn it down because I am an honest lad?

agent006

12,058 posts

288 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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If they're blind enough to offer it to you with gaping holes in your CV then you've got nothing to lose really.

stin hambo

Original Poster:

627 posts

261 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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Well I guess not!

I am due to see them in a couple of weeks! Here's hoping eh?!

jimmyc412t2

84 posts

261 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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get NT installed on something and play. its a bitch compared to 2000/XP though its the same logic behind the scenes

otherwise it'll scare you silly if you've never messed with it before.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

263 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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For a small fee, I'll give you my mobile number

It's really not that difficult... and besides, PH can sort it

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

289 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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Is this a friend of a friend thing? or some agency found you it?

Is it by any chance in IraQ?? Or Russia?

stin hambo

Original Poster:

627 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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It's in Ireland (County Cork) - Must be a shortage of IT peopel in the area!

Also I am being paid €2,000 for travel expenses! My Dad is giving me more details today as he is the one who found out about it in the first place!

It'll probably turn out to be €200 travel expenses and €100 a day!!

billb

3,198 posts

289 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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take it and make sure u have a pc connected to google and ph u'll be fine. make sure they send u on lots of expensive training too as they obviously need to ugrade to 2003 and ure just the man to do it!!

pdV6

16,442 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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stin hambo said:
My Dad is giving me more details today as he is the one who found out about it in the first place!

Aaargh! The curse of the older generation - "Hey! something to do with computers... My son does something to do with computers - he must be an expert in this field!"

...or is that just my dad?

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

272 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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Not that's all dads, and mums as well.

And all friends.

Oh your computer is broken? Dobbo knows about computers, he'll fix it for free at your pleasure.

Funny how everyone wants there computer fixed for free. If I was a doctor would they want free surgery in their home? Or a free extension built if I was a builder?

Sorry, rant over!

Fer

7,765 posts

304 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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_dobbo_ said:

Funny how everyone wants there computer fixed for free. If I was a doctor would they want free surgery in their home? Or a free extension built if I was a builder?


To paraphrase Red Dwarf... "It's a good job he's not a gynaecologist."

stin hambo

Original Poster:

627 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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Well it's nothing to do with women's bits! Although I suspect women run on Microsoft as they are prone to silly errors and frequent crashes...

I'll get my coat then...

nd75596

109 posts

265 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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Here you go, Microsoft have launched a product called Virtual Server 2005!!!!

www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/default.mspx

It will allow you to install and run a Virtual server on a Windows 2000 professional or XP workstation. You need to allocate it some memory and disk space but if you have a good PC/laptop it works quite well.

Or use VMWare which is even better but you need to by a license for that!!

www.vmware.com

Neil.

stin hambo

Original Poster:

627 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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Interesting thank you!

TheExcession

11,669 posts

274 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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Hmmm, interesting to read what other people recomend in such circumstances.

Personally and from experience I'd be a bit wary of this.

Many years ago a mate and myself landed a contract to install a server and about 100 PCs into a school. No problem we thought. We went down to the book store and bought the NT Server Bible and away we went.

Now, being as neither of us had ever 'really' setup an NT domain before - I mean we ran one in our house with about 5 clients and an attempt at domain authentication but it was laughable in the face of a real world system. Fortunatley we took a couple of PCs with us and set them up in the hotel room so we could work on problems outside of the client environment.

Man, it was a nightmare, in hindsight one of the biggest problems was that the client really didn't know what they needed or expected to be delivered - neither did we.

For example we'd setup shares on the server to a CD disk array that had Encarta and various other educational CDs available, we'd setup the RAID and server shares that ensured all the student data was held separately from the system files, we provided backup techniques for student and system data, we even given them a box of floppy disks that could be inserted into the classroom PCs that meant the whole room full of PCs could be rebuilt in less than 20 minutes.

We setup their firewall and internet access, we setup their mail accounts, ahhhh and everything I forget now...

What happened when we tried to get sign of for the work? They bitched about a few trivial matters that we hadn't even considered. We'd gone out of our way to give them everything we could possibly think of that they might need and they hauled us over the coals for stupid shit like "you didn't provide a mechanism for us to take this list of student IDs, usernamse and passwords from Excel and import them directly into the NT PAM"

The whole project ended over running by nearly a month and cost me about £300 out of my pocket, still I learnt an aweful lot about NT domain management and I've never touched one since.

Domain setup & management is a skill that comes only from a whole load of experience.

By all means go for it but expect to work your balls off for the first 8 weeks whilst you get it under control.

Make sure you know exactly what you are letting your self in for - when 30 employees are banging on your door asking where all ther emails from the last 12 months have gone are you going to be able to fix it?

best
Ex

stin hambo

Original Poster:

627 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Thanks Ex,

Well that is why I am waiting for a detailed outline of what is expected of me and exactly what environment I will be administering.

I'll be sure to post it here first!

Graham

16,378 posts

308 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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your already one step ahead of the majority of (book) mcse qualified guys i trip over in that you have some real networking experience and you accept you know nothing about NT...

imho

Netware is a lot easier to setup correctly and run it without making big mistakes


With NT there are lots of ways to set it up badly and not find out for a long time...

The temptation with somthing like nt is also to run as many apps as possible on the same box because you can...

dont run separate app servers for each app... you end up with a lot of servers, but you can maintain them and one problem doesnt stuff the entire lan

G