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Nevin

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Monday 29th November 2004
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I have installed a second hard drive which the computer has recognised but I am having a nightmare trying to format it so I can actually use it.

When I right click on My Computer - System Management (or something similar) it shows a list of drives and their status. My new hard drive is not in that list. However, it does appear in the box below along with the rest. The info about this drive says it is not initialized, so I try and initialize it but nothing happens.

I had thought I should be able to format my hard drive from here, but it seems I am doing something wrong. Any thoughts?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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XP?

Right click My Computer and select 'Manage'

In the tree on the left hand side you should see a node called 'Disk Management' if not expand the 'Storage' node and you should see it now.

Click that.

Right click on the new drive (which should be listed in there) and click initialize, when that is finished right click the drive again and click Format.

If you arent using XP ignore the above advice

Nevin

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Monday 29th November 2004
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Plotloss said:
XP?

Right click My Computer and select 'Manage'

In the tree on the left hand side you should see a node called 'Disk Management' if not expand the 'Storage' node and you should see it now.

Click that.

Right click on the new drive (which should be listed in there) and click initialize, when that is finished right click the drive again and click Format.

If you arent using XP ignore the above advice


Aha, that's what I was trying to describe having done. When I click on initialize nothing seems to happen. Does this take ages?

Plotloss

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300 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Nah initialize should be quick.

But it should allow you to get to format which would have been disabled before you initialized the disk.

Format takes a while. About 2 hours for a 250Gb...

pdV6

16,442 posts

291 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Nevin said:
I have installed a second hard drive which the computer has recognised but I am having a nightmare trying to format it so I can actually use it.

When I right click on My Computer - System Management (or something similar) it shows a list of drives and their status. My new hard drive is not in that list. However, it does appear in the box below along with the rest. The info about this drive says it is not initialized, so I try and initialize it but nothing happens.

I had thought I should be able to format my hard drive from here, but it seems I am doing something wrong. Any thoughts?


The top list is a list of logical volumes. This is distinct from the list of physical drives - there may be more than one volume on a single drive or multiple drives may be chained together into a single volume.

It sounds like you originally had a single drive containing a single volume.

The new drive needs to be partitioned into one or more volumes and then the volumes need to be formatted.

You can indeed do all of this from the disk management view that you've described, but you do need to be logged in with admin priviledges to do this.

Nevin

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Monday 29th November 2004
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Plotloss said:
Nah initialize should be quick.



It isn't working then, which is what I suspected.

Nevin

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Monday 29th November 2004
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pdV6 said:

The top list is a list of logical volumes. This is distinct from the list of physical drives - there may be more than one volume on a single drive or multiple drives may be chained together into a single volume.

It sounds like you originally had a single drive containing a single volume.

The new drive needs to be partitioned into one or more volumes and then the volumes need to be formatted.

You can indeed do all of this from the disk management view that you've described, but you do need to be logged in with admin priviledges to do this.


The top list of logical volumes doesn't show my new drive, the bottom list does. I will try playing around with stuff again tonight to see where I get to

pdV6

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Monday 29th November 2004
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Nevin said:

The top list of logical volumes doesn't show my new drive, the bottom list does. I will try playing around with stuff again tonight to see where I get to


Yeah - that's because there's no volume on that drive as yet, so there's nothing to show in the list.

{edited to add:} Remember that "C:", "D:" etc are volumes as opposed to drives.

>> Edited by pdV6 on Monday 29th November 12:28

Nevin

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Monday 29th November 2004
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pdV6 said:

Nevin said:

The top list of logical volumes doesn't show my new drive, the bottom list does. I will try playing around with stuff again tonight to see where I get to



Yeah - that's because there's no volume on that drive as yet, so there's nothing to show in the list.

{edited to add:} Remember that "C:", "D:" etc are volumes as opposed to drives.

>> Edited by pdV6 on Monday 29th November 12:28


Yeah, fair point. Just wondering why initialize isn't working then

pdV6

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Monday 29th November 2004
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Are you logged in with admin priviledges?

Nevin

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pdV6 said:
Are you logged in with admin priviledges?


I just start up my PC in the usual way. Didn't think I needed admin privileges on my home computer

pdV6

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Monday 29th November 2004
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Might help if you let the collective know some more details about which version of Windows you're using... presumably some flavour of XP or 2000?

>> Edited by pdV6 on Monday 29th November 12:53

Plotloss

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Monday 29th November 2004
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The user that is set to log onto Windows automatically needs to be part of the Administrator group for initialize and format to work correctly.

You may not log on as such but its happening in the background...

Assuming XP2K

Nevin

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Monday 29th November 2004
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pdV6 said:
Might help if you let the collective know some more details about which version of Windows you're using... presumably some flavour of XP or 2000?

>> Edited by pdV6 on Monday 29th November 12:53


Sorry, XP standard home edition (whatever its called).

Start up PC in usual way, go through your steps above and try and initialize drive. Nothing happens for a few seconds and then drive remains unitialized.

GregE240

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297 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Nevin, the drive type as well would also help.

Some you need to format before introducing, then import within the Disk Management window. Can't remember what brand that was. Can't be Seagate because I just added a Barracuda into the home desktop. That just found itself and away I jolly well went.

Greg

Nevin

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Monday 29th November 2004
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GregE240 said:
Nevin, the drive type as well would also help.

Some you need to format before introducing, then import within the Disk Management window. Can't remember what brand that was. Can't be Seagate because I just added a Barracuda into the home desktop. That just found itself and away I jolly well went.

Greg


Its a Samsung 120gb jobby

GregE240

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297 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Have you had a look at their website? I believe there is a utility for formatting it or something? I had an old Samsung 40Gb in this PC before I upgraded it, and seem to recall it was a download on their site?

Nevin

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Tuesday 30th November 2004
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Well that didn't work. The git just won't initialise.

pdV6

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291 months

Tuesday 30th November 2004
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Maybe its FUBAR. Not entirely unknown for new drives to arrive dead.

You got another PC you can try it in?

Piccy mate

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267 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Second hard drives are not normally a problem - most HDD web sites have the instructions or a possible download that you can make a floppy from to get the drive up and running under DOS.
You could double check what you're doing by looking at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=313348

The samsung Support site does allow you to download a DOS Utility file - but you need to know the type and model of your HDD - I tried looking at SpinpointV80 SV1203N and that gave me the file needed for that drive. Look at :
http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/support/b2c_support_search.jsp and try from there.
I've always used Maxtors or IBM and they have setup disks which saves all the trouble of trying to set it up in Windows.
Piccy