Devices with fingerprint recognition....
Devices with fingerprint recognition....
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W12GT

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4,498 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Apple are very keen to promote this technology and initially I thought what a good idea. Then I had another thought:- does this mean they can secretly collelect all of your fingerprints over a period of time when you use the phone in different ways?

Does anyone else find this a little concerning? I know I'm being rather sceptical but we all are all now very aware of what google (to mention just one big company) knows about us - and if they know then so do hackers who want to perform ID theft.

Is it a risk? What would the info be useful for other than to collect a Big Brother style profile on all participants?

robsa

2,472 posts

215 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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It does not store your fingerprint anywhere other than directly onto the chip in your phone. Apple do NOT keep records of your fingerprint.

robsa

2,472 posts

215 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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It does not store your fingerprint anywhere other than directly onto the chip in your phone. Apple do NOT keep records of your fingerprint.

W12GT

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4,498 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Or is that what they 'allow' us to believe to make us feel comfortable using their technology???

Don't forget the police and secret service can now monitor every key stroke we type on pretty much all digital online media!

Edited to add :- government funded / empowered methods of data collection?

Not saying I believe this is happening but my points are more towards 'can it be done?'

Edited by W12GT on Wednesday 9th September 21:05

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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robsa said:
It does not store your fingerprint anywhere other than directly onto the chip in your phone. Apple do NOT keep records of your fingerprint.
Perhaps.

But I am sure "they" (not just apple) told us no-one stored our internet searches, nor a lot of other information which it might be said means they were not being 100% truthful. Nor indeed that TVs and Consoles store (and listen for) keywords.......

Assuming that the above is true of course...


steveatesh

5,383 posts

195 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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David87

7,044 posts

243 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Of course Apple don't collect and store fingerprint data... imagine the lawsuits if they were ever found out. eek

W12GT

Original Poster:

4,498 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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David87 said:
Of course Apple don't collect and store fingerprint data... imagine the lawsuits if they were ever found out. eek
When I were a lad I was always told it is easier to get information from a friend than a foe. So hugely successful company gets willing participants to become addicted to newer and better technology that benefits all.......high probability of darker undertones are possible. The huge steps forward in technology work both for and against governments.

Will we ever know? Possibly not in our lifetime; that said there are things I was told by old acquaintances of my family that 30years ago seemed unbelievable yet today those very same things are now very much in the public arena....

J4CKO

47,075 posts

231 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Not sure what they would do with my fingerprints, what possible benefit is it to them ?

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

229 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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It won't actually store your fingerprint, it'll hash it down to a big-assed number, and store that - but the number can't be used to reconstruct the actual fingerprint.

RobinBanks

17,551 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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J4CKO said:
Not sure what they would do with my fingerprints, what possible benefit is it to them ?
I was wondering this. Why would Apple care what my fingerprints are?

Unless they're hoping to fight crime.

audi321

6,196 posts

244 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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I might be wrong but I thought these devices didn't actually read your fingerprint but it has something to do with biometrics? Whatever they are

garycat

5,431 posts

241 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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They could run a match against the police fingerprint database and instantly solve loads of crimes wink

bitchstewie

68,401 posts

241 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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If you don't trust Apple not to be doing "evil things" with your biometric data you shouldn't be using anything from Apple because they could just as easily be keylogging credentials and stealing those - so in short I wouldn't have any concerns on whether you can trust Apple's intentions but whether you can trust their coders and their security is a slightly different question.

I'm not a fan of biometric data.

Stuff gets hacked and stolen all the time.

If it's my password I can change that. I can't do that with my biometric data (easily).