alternatives to broadband
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with a thread going praising broadband i'd just like to say how crap it is in my area!! are there any alternatives for me - i have it for my school but am restricted to 1mb adsl which only has an upload size of 256mb which is totally inadequate but we wont be getting sdsl in the forseeable future so are there any alternatives that dont cost 50k a year? anyone know anything about janet?
Bit confused here:
1) Are you saying that you are looking for a new ISP for your self or the school?
2) I presume you mean that you are only getting 256k up and not 256meg
3) Whay is it crap, do you upload more than you download?
4) It is common for upload bandwidth to be either a half (xdsl) or a quarter (cable) of the download bandwidth.
5) Cheapest way to increase adsl uploading bandwidth is to increase the whole package ie jumps from 256k to 384k to 512k up, dependant on the package.
6) Why is it crap, is the line faulty?
1) Are you saying that you are looking for a new ISP for your self or the school?
2) I presume you mean that you are only getting 256k up and not 256meg
3) Whay is it crap, do you upload more than you download?
4) It is common for upload bandwidth to be either a half (xdsl) or a quarter (cable) of the download bandwidth.
5) Cheapest way to increase adsl uploading bandwidth is to increase the whole package ie jumps from 256k to 384k to 512k up, dependant on the package.
6) Why is it crap, is the line faulty?
As far as I know any ADSL line backed by a BT Wholesale line is limited to 256Kb upstream no matter how fast your downstream.
One way to get around this if you have the cash is bonded ADSL where you have 2 or 4 ADSL lines and a router at each end that can handle it giving you 512Kb or 1024Kb upstream. There are a few ISPs that offer this over BTW lines.
Otherwise you'll be looking at leased line which may not be as expensive as you think. I seem to remember getting quoted about £12k a year for a 2Mb connection and that was to a village in the middle of nowhere in Scotland.
One way to get around this if you have the cash is bonded ADSL where you have 2 or 4 ADSL lines and a router at each end that can handle it giving you 512Kb or 1024Kb upstream. There are a few ISPs that offer this over BTW lines.
Otherwise you'll be looking at leased line which may not be as expensive as you think. I seem to remember getting quoted about £12k a year for a 2Mb connection and that was to a village in the middle of nowhere in Scotland.
ultimasimon said:
Bit confused here:
1) Are you saying that you are looking for a new ISP for your self or the school?
2) I presume you mean that you are only getting 256k up and not 256meg
3) Whay is it crap, do you upload more than you download?
4) It is common for upload bandwidth to be either a half (xdsl) or a quarter (cable) of the download bandwidth.
5) Cheapest way to increase adsl uploading bandwidth is to increase the whole package ie jumps from 256k to 384k to 512k up, dependant on the package.
6) Why is it crap, is the line faulty?
sos yes i meant k 256mb would be nice
its crap as we want lots of remote access where users get files and mails off the servers so i presume upload speed will hamper this? am looking at anything that will speed this up - am told the max we can have is 1mb adsl here ( in teh country ) which has a max of 256 upload
LexSport said:
As far as I know any ADSL line backed by a BT Wholesale line is limited to 256Kb upstream no matter how fast your downstream.
One way to get around this if you have the cash is bonded ADSL where you have 2 or 4 ADSL lines and a router at each end that can handle it giving you 512Kb or 1024Kb upstream. There are a few ISPs that offer this over BTW lines.
Otherwise you'll be looking at leased line which may not be as expensive as you think. I seem to remember getting quoted about £12k a year for a 2Mb connection and that was to a village in the middle of nowhere in Scotland.
looked at something like that but eg mail we'd want encrpyted and apparently u cant bond https sessions?
which isp's offer this as was looking at eg fat pipe warp www.fatpipeinc.com didnt know the actual isp's could do it?
>> Edited by billb on Tuesday 5th April 16:00
billb said:Well I know that Nildram do it. As for SSL I could quite believe that there might be issues with that. But at the least being bonded would mean that different sessions could be distributed across the different lines e.g. 4 users @256 from 4 bonded lines rather than 4 @ 64...
looked at something like that but eg mail we'd want encrpyted and apparently u cant bond https sessions?
which isp's offer this as was looking at eg fat pipe warp www.fatpipeinc.com didnt know the actual isp's could do it?
>> Edited by billb on Tuesday 5th April 16:00
Hi
We do this for a lot of our clients. We can use bonded ADSL circuits (up to 4 is possible without horrifically expensive routers) and we also configure non bonded but multiple ADSL circuits using load balancing equipment such as Fatpipe or Neteyes.
There are a number of things to consider depending on what sort of traffic is prominent and whether it is inbound or outbound. The load balanced option is good as you can use multiple ISPs to give you extra resilience. The multiple connections can be used in aggregate for increased data rates(i.e four 512 ADSL cicuits will give 2MB cownload and 1mb upload or four 2mb ADSL will give 8MB download and 1MB upload)and in a failover configuration to allow e-mail and web access to continue if one circuit was to fail. Where possible we would have one of the circuits with a BT independent ADSL provider.
If you want to discuss any of these give me (Steve Evans) a call on 0208 542 5655 or steve.evans@network-interlinks.com
>> Edited by tuscanboy on Wednesday 6th April 23:32
>> Edited by tuscanboy on Wednesday 6th April 23:33
We do this for a lot of our clients. We can use bonded ADSL circuits (up to 4 is possible without horrifically expensive routers) and we also configure non bonded but multiple ADSL circuits using load balancing equipment such as Fatpipe or Neteyes.
There are a number of things to consider depending on what sort of traffic is prominent and whether it is inbound or outbound. The load balanced option is good as you can use multiple ISPs to give you extra resilience. The multiple connections can be used in aggregate for increased data rates(i.e four 512 ADSL cicuits will give 2MB cownload and 1mb upload or four 2mb ADSL will give 8MB download and 1MB upload)and in a failover configuration to allow e-mail and web access to continue if one circuit was to fail. Where possible we would have one of the circuits with a BT independent ADSL provider.
If you want to discuss any of these give me (Steve Evans) a call on 0208 542 5655 or steve.evans@network-interlinks.com
>> Edited by tuscanboy on Wednesday 6th April 23:32
>> Edited by tuscanboy on Wednesday 6th April 23:33
tuscanboy said:
Hi
We do this for a lot of our clients. We can use bonded ADSL circuits (up to 4 is possible without horrifically expensive routers) and we also configure non bonded but multiple ADSL circuits using load balancing equipment such as Fatpipe or Neteyes.
There are a number of things to consider depending on what sort of traffic is prominent and whether it is inbound or outbound. The load balanced option is good as you can use multiple ISPs to give you extra resilience. The multiple connections can be used in aggregate for increased data rates(i.e four 512 ADSL cicuits will give 2MB cownload and 1mb upload or four 2mb ADSL will give 8MB download and 1MB upload)and in a failover configuration to allow e-mail and web access to continue if one circuit was to fail. Where possible we would have one of the circuits with a BT independent ADSL provider.
If you want to discuss any of these give me (Steve Evans) a call on 0208 542 5655 or steve.evans@network-interlinks.com
>> Edited by tuscanboy on Wednesday 6th April 23:32
>> Edited by tuscanboy on Wednesday 6th April 23:33
yhm!
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