Broadband upload speed
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Scooby_snax

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1,279 posts

284 months

Sunday 10th April 2005
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I have enquired of the BT Broadband helpdesk and they advise me no matter the download speed package I go for the upload speed will remain the same. As i am not bothered too much about download speed ie dont download music, vids, games etc, I do need a 'good' upload speed as I often send 5-10Mb files.
Question is are BT talking bo**ox or are they correct and would find the same with other providers
Steve

roop

6,018 posts

314 months

Sunday 10th April 2005
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BT are quite correct. The 'A' in ADSL stands for Asymmetrical meaning the upload speed is not the same as download. Your download can be 512kbit/s 1MBit/s or even 8MBit/s but your upload is always 256kbit/s. If you want high speed uploading you need SDSL, the 'S' predictably standing for Symmetrical and hence upload speed is same as download. You need to be near to the exchange though and not all exchanges support it AFAIK. It's also a lot more expensive as you can basically replace a £15k pa leased line with this.

Edit as I forgot to say, you will get this with all ADSL. Cable is worse - only a 128kbit/s upload.

>> Edited by roop on Sunday 10th April 23:17

Scooby_snax

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1,279 posts

284 months

Sunday 10th April 2005
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Thank you...very useful

cuneus

5,963 posts

272 months

Sunday 10th April 2005
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You could get 2 broadband connection (limited use for download say) and aggregate them, still only give you 512k though

squirrelz

1,186 posts

301 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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roop said:
Edit as I forgot to say, you will get this with all ADSL. Cable is worse - only a 128kbit/s upload.
Not quite true - Telewest 2Mbit broadband has a 256k upload and their 4Mbit has a 384k upload.

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

294 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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roop said:
It's also a lot more expensive as you can basically replace a £15k pa leased line with this.




You can actually get these for £9k now from BT, and if you talk nicely to me , I can possibly point you in the right direction of an even cheaper leased line...

The trouble with our expectations is that we want much more than we are willing to pay for. ADSL (and cable) is a cheap product (mind you not as cheap as some other countries) but we still want more.

Thing to remember people, is that the pricing structure for ADSL is changing. We are being told we can have the fastest connections we like now - for the same price, but as the ISP's have cottened on to the fact that there is money to be made, they are charging for the amount we download/upload, so we'll have to be more careful in future about what we send/receive...

SDSL will never become cost effective until BT decides that it's made enough money out of us, and then they'll release the purse strings.

As I understand it, the average profit made on an ADSL connection per year is about £30 - which isn't much...


>> Edited by neil_cardiff on Monday 11th April 10:31

billb

3,198 posts

295 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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have a look at this u can bond adsl lines to make them faster - cheaper than leased line:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=168300&f=95&h=0

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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ADSL wholesales at £9 a month or thereabouts.

£6 per month per customer seems like alright margin to me...

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

294 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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Plotloss said:
ADSL wholesales at £9 a month or thereabouts.

£6 per month per customer seems like alright margin to me...


No hardware, support or overheads (billing, admin etc) in that though - mind you still not saying it costs £6 per customer per month...

Put it this way, when I was selling this stuff earlier last year, I was after the leased lines - I could make the same money as selling a hundred ADSL connections...

Damned hard work though

d-man

1,019 posts

275 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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UKOnline's 8Mbps service is 400kbps upload (if it's available where you are). They're using LLU, so can offer different services from those through BT but it's only available at certain exchanges.

A 10Mb file should upload in less than 6 minutes on a 256kbps line, so this might be enough depending on how often you do it.