BitCoin mining - Is there any point in trying?
BitCoin mining - Is there any point in trying?
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Too Late

Original Poster:

5,139 posts

252 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Hi all

On my lunch break i was reading up on a story on BitCoin mining and it got me thinking. Could i not start?

So having a quick look online, a pre-built mining box (Antminer S9) is around 1.3k

This is lunchtime man math workings...

Bitcoin price is 5.5k USD
Electric for the year running the S9 rig is 1.5k
That means if i were to mine 1 bitcoin a year, it could be worth 5.5k, leaving 2.2k profit.

Someone please tell me its not that simple.
I know its harder ever second to mine....

Too Late

Original Poster:

5,139 posts

252 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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another question is. Does anyone on PH do any mining?

Rawwr

22,722 posts

251 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Long answer: Can't be bothered
Short answer: No

ZesPak

25,679 posts

213 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Had a customer running 10 rigs.
Answer is no.
He stopped doing it.

silobass

1,213 posts

119 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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There's a youtube video about with a guy who visits a "secret location" bitcoin farm. The place is full of PC's running 24/7 and I don't even think that brings in that much.

SDarks

192 posts

109 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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The more coins that are mined and more people are mining it gets harder to mine - more processing power needed.

The mining rigs with the best processors are sold out months in advance to high end mining companies that do this on a huge scale. With the rigs the average joe can buy off the shelf you don’t really stand a chance as you are effectively competing against companies running these rigs on free electric in places like Iceland. They are using the latest and greatest set ups that get superseded every 6 months.


XFRFred

7,413 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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I would say that Mr Average Joe can no longer mine bitcoin, as it would cost far too much (in the UK) in terms of energy prices, to make any profit, especially after buying the kit.
It may be better to mine a lesser valued coin, that's easier to obtain, and hope that the value will increase over the coming months/years.

I tried to mine Litecoin, when they were about $2 a coin, a few years back. I should have kept mining as they are now worth up to $70 a coin. I swapped over to mining FeatherCoin instead, which was a mistake. I could be sitting on a few hundred quid now.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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No you will be beaten to every block, start a new block and get beaten to that.


Durzel

12,795 posts

185 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Bitcoin is one of those things that - if you're just finding out about it now as a layman (no offence) - you've missed the gold rush by some distance.

pc.iow

1,879 posts

220 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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What is it you actually 'mine' for, and how?

HTP99

24,185 posts

157 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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A couple of years ago I had a colleague try and explain to me all about Bitcoin, I was still none the wiser then and I'm even less now.

768

17,461 posts

113 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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XFRFred said:
I tried to mine Litecoin, when they were about $2 a coin, a few years back. I should have kept mining as they are now worth up to $70 a coin.
Even then, the trick isn't to mine them, it's to just buy them before they go up 35x in value.

Too Late

Original Poster:

5,139 posts

252 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Thanks chaps

Fascinating stuff.

Readings the forums, i thought there was just one bitcoin to mine, but there are lots of different variants to mine for. Great read but looking on Youtube and the scale of some of the underground hidden facilities is crazy!

Durzel

12,795 posts

185 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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768 said:
Even then, the trick isn't to mine them, it's to just buy them before they go up 35x in value.
Indeed. Mining them is pointless because you'll never compete with the Chinese farms, and at this point on regular home kit you'd spend more on electricity than you'd actually make.

Order66

6,739 posts

266 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Durzel said:
you'd spend more on electricity than you'd actually make.
This is the main point these days - mining is still possible but the cost of power eclipses any value achieved. Hence why so many zombie botnets do nothing sinister except use CPU cycles on infected machines to mine bitcoin - someone else pays the electric.

ging84

9,507 posts

163 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
No you will be beaten to every block, start a new block and get beaten to that.
This is not how it works, It would be if you mined by yourself, but no one does that, they join pools. When your pool gets a block, you get paid for your contribution, all be it a meaninglessly small amount your are likely contribute.

bloomen

8,606 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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What most little people do now is mine other coins with a gpu and swap them for bitcoin.

chris285

812 posts

149 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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This and also it's partial discovery, so for a home user you will be given a part of it as a job and then request a new one etc

As stated it's simply not going to return enough, guy at work reckons he gets enough to cover costs on his 980ti but no idea how quite frankly

MrBarry123

6,065 posts

138 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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HTP99 said:
A couple of years ago I had a colleague try and explain to me all about Bitcoin, I was still none the wiser then and I'm even less now.
hehe

Yipper

5,964 posts

107 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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You're about 7 years too late...