Sky Q + iPhone 8 WiFi issues
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Gio G

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2,995 posts

240 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Hi all,

Wondering if anyone else is having the same issue?

Whenever I move from one room in my house to another, my WiFi appears to drop out. I have to toggle the WiFi on/off to get it back working again..

Happens every time.. getting frustrating. I have hard reset my phone, reset router, reset network settings.. cannot figure it out.. Seems it only did this since IOS11. Happens to the wife who has an iPhone 6S.

On Sky Q you have those mini Q boxes which act as routers, wondering whether that is impacting as it connecting to them when I leave one room into another..

Any ideas?

Thanks
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a7x88

795 posts

179 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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My initial thought was on the handoff between the access points for your iPhones (this would be 802.11r probably but not sure on the Sky Q implementation). Sounds like something is screwed between the client and AP on the handover. Have you tried sky forums or similar to see if others are having issues?

On enterprise gear there tends to be a separate set of best practices for handling IOS devices as they can be fussy to get features like this working well - does it work ok with other devices? Laptops/android phones etc?

a7x88

795 posts

179 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Also do you know if your are joining the 2.4 or 5 GHz band? Maybe try disabling 5ghz and see if things improve

RammyMP

7,737 posts

184 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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My phone was doing that (iPhone 6S) after I updated the software to 11, it's stopped doing it now. I don't know what the cure was but I've updated it to 11.1.2 now.

Gio G

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Thursday 23rd November 2017
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a7x88 said:
Also do you know if your are joining the 2.4 or 5 GHz band? Maybe try disabling 5ghz and see if things improve
I think the router settings has it set for both.. not sure how to separate..

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Gio G

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Thursday 23rd November 2017
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MissChief

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199 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Don't disable the 5GHz or your Sky Q will throw a fit.

What I'd suggest is unticking the option 'Synchronise 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz networks' tick box and click apply. Then back on that page, rename the 2.4GHz by adding 2.4 onto the end of the SSID and apply again. Then connect your devices to the 2.4Ghz network.

a7x88

795 posts

179 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Yea - if sky q needs 5ghz then seperate out the band's. You want to remove the frequency hopping so you can isolate if it is that or the roaming between access points causing the issue.

I only recommended removing 5ghz as not all devices support it so it's generally the safer option

Gio G

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240 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Thanks guys for the advice. When I called Sky yesterday, they were adamant it was not their gear and my device was at fault!!

Will try those changes..

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garylythgoe

831 posts

253 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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I have this issue too - same hardware.

garylythgoe

831 posts

253 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Anyone found a fix yet?

gr1340

991 posts

234 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Judging by the problems that others have here, I would change providers:
https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Fibre/IPhone-8-Plus-a...

Gio G

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240 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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I tried the above with splitting the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz, which Sky also recommended. The problem came back within a week.

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a7x88

795 posts

179 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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The issue with roaming is that access points can only do so much. It's down to the client to want to change at the end of the day. Access points tend to try and force their hand by making the closest one as favourable as possible however some clients still refuse to budge until they completely drop out of range.

Mobiles seen to be the worst from this aspect. How do other devices behave? Laptop etc?

MissChief

8,002 posts

199 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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a7x88 said:
The issue with roaming is that access points can only do so much. It's down to the client to want to change at the end of the day. Access points tend to try and force their hand by making the closest one as favourable as possible however some clients still refuse to budge until they completely drop out of range.

Mobiles seen to be the worst from this aspect. How do other devices behave? Laptop etc?
This is often the culprit. Iphones are awful for trying to remain connected to a single access point and remaining on 5GHz even if the signal is very poor. Turning Wi-Fi off then on again will often make it connect to the closest access point again.

Gio G

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240 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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a7x88 said:
The issue with roaming is that access points can only do so much. It's down to the client to want to change at the end of the day. Access points tend to try and force their hand by making the closest one as favourable as possible however some clients still refuse to budge until they completely drop out of range.

Mobiles seen to be the worst from this aspect. How do other devices behave? Laptop etc?
Laptop is no problem, probably because I have it in a fixed place and does not move around and stays connected all day, when I work from home. The inconvenience of WiFi on/off is a first world problem in the grand scheme of things, just a bit annoying.. Just wish Sky would get this into their lab and find a permanent fix..

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megaphone

11,695 posts

282 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Have you 'forgotten' one of the WiFi SSIDs in the settings? Even though you have split and renamed the two frequencies, if they are remembered in the iPhone it may still try and roam.

I suggest forgetting the 2.4ghz SSID so the iPhone is forced on to 5Ghz.

MissChief

8,002 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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megaphone said:
Have you 'forgotten' one of the WiFi SSIDs in the settings? Even though you have split and renamed the two frequencies, if they are remembered in the iPhone it may still try and roam.

I suggest forgetting the 2.4ghz SSID so the iPhone is forced on to 5Ghz.
More likely the other way round. 5GHz effective range is less than 2.4Ghz.

Gio G

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240 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Spoke with Sky Mesh team again on this and they have formally asked Apple to provide a fix on this. Splitting the frequencies is not a permanent fix and they do not support it.

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Harris15

7 posts

80 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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I had the same problem with my old TP-link router, all of my devices have problems with it, when I was moving inside the house I have to reconnect from time to time, and that happens with my iPhone and my iPad. To be honest, I solved this issue, but I had to buy a new router, because the problem was in my old router. To cut it short, I bought a new router and I had to setup, and I have never done this before. I spend a lot of time doing this because I had no idea how to do it. I searched on the internet how can I fix this issue of mine, and I found this article https://www.router-reset.com/ip/192-168-0-1 where was all the necessary information how can I setup my router for a better Internet connection

Edited by Harris15 on Friday 17th April 20:20