The register - "Windows 10 is officially a sh*t show."
The register - "Windows 10 is officially a sh*t show."
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TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,549 posts

199 months

Thursday 25th October 2018
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Memo to Microsoft: Windows 10 is broken, and the fixes can't wait

Some interesting observations on Windows 10.


buggalugs

9,292 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th October 2018
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The quality of updates over the last few years has been absolutely shocking. I can’t remember this many fk ups over this length of time before.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

103 months

Thursday 25th October 2018
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Another reason to stay on XP ...



hyphen

26,262 posts

121 months

Thursday 25th October 2018
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Windows 10 = privacy concerns.

dump it people.

Install Ubuntu!

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Thursday 25th October 2018
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hyphen said:
Install Ubuntu!
Yay! 2018 will be the year of Linux on the desktop!

wombleh

2,408 posts

153 months

Thursday 25th October 2018
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Couple the problems described in this article with the new semi annual release channel where you have to accept their major updates within 18 months to stay in support (or is it now 3 years) and this is just a disaster waiting to happen.

This might be the thing that makes Linux on the corporate desktop a reality in the next decade.

AJB88

15,976 posts

202 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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hyphen said:
Install Ubuntu!
Agreed, for the first time ever I have stayed on a LTS install rather than jumping to 18.10 as well.

captain_cynic

17,612 posts

126 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Lemming Train said:
Another reason to stay on XP ...

Bah, I regret moving off of Windows 3.11

hyphen said:
Install Ubuntu!
I dumped Ubuntu years ago when they tried to Macify the UI.

Install Linux Mint. Have your - + x buttons on the correct side.

ZesPak

26,159 posts

227 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Yep, love using Win 10 tbh but the update policy is absolutely shocking, especially on the "Home" edition.

TonyRPH

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13,549 posts

199 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Even the "Pro" edition is similarly afflicted.

A company I do work for has lost a couple of days work twice now due to failed updates, and then having to completely re-install Windows 10 + all apps.

Even Windows 8 is way, way better than this.




ZesPak

26,159 posts

227 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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My BiL spend the other day fixing his laptop after apparently a windows update had killed a very large number of them.

Bullitt Five-Oh

876 posts

98 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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What game are MS playing with Windows I wonder? Their intentions are good but the execution is st as always. Which is a shame because I'd love to get me a Surface Pro but not if it runs a system that owns me rather than me owning it.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

140 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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I wouldn't ditch my windows 7 OS when 10 came out due to it looking very dodgy....Now it's official
Thanks for the information

Debian Linux is looking good for my future computing and I'll keep a Windows 7 machine at hand to run some windows only programmes

Perhaps when Microsoft reach Windows 12 all will be ok but I doubt it

LordGrover

34,189 posts

243 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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I have no doubt these are real concerns, but touch wood, I've had no serious issues with w10.
I'm responsible for about 70 desktops and apart from the occasional failed updates it's been fine. So far. paperbag

ZesPak

26,159 posts

227 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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You've done it now, haven't you?

Tbh I'm in the same boat, nothing serious so far but, like I said, my BiL spent the day restoring his computer to a pre-update state. Worst thing is, even if he had known, because of "Home" edition, he couldn't even have stopped the update.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

221 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Lemming Train said:
Another reason to stay on XP ...

Or go for a step up and go Mac or Linux.

Bullitt Five-Oh

876 posts

98 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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300bhp/ton said:
Lemming Train said:
Another reason to stay on XP ...

Or go for a step up and go Mac or Linux.
Let's not forget ChromeOS.

WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

270 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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I had a problem with a customer's machine locking up recently. It was an odd one, nothing apparent in the Event Logs, it just locked up solid at random points in time.

Eventually I spotted an entry, "The beta feature EseDiskFlushConsistency is enabled in ESENT due to the beta site mode settings 0x800000"

WTaF? This is a production machine that was never signed up for beta testing...

Nothing beta should be out in the wild unless you've signed up for a beta program!

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,549 posts

199 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
I had a problem with a customer's machine locking up recently. It was an odd one, nothing apparent in the Event Logs, it just locked up solid at random points in time.

Eventually I spotted an entry, "The beta feature EseDiskFlushConsistency is enabled in ESENT due to the beta site mode settings 0x800000"

WTaF? This is a production machine that was never signed up for beta testing...

Nothing beta should be out in the wild unless you've signed up for a beta program!
To cite part of the article:

The_Reg said:
In 2014 Microsoft decided it could do a better job if it discarded a lot of software testers. This bright new dawn was lauded at the time by Peter Bright at Ars Technica in a piece titled "How Microsoft dragged its development practices into the 21st century". Testers were soooo 20th century.

The previous month, Microsoft had laid off many of its Windows testers.

"Under the new structure, a number of Windows engineers, primarily dedicated testers, will no longer be needed," wrote Mary Jo Foley in her scoop for ZDNet.

Crowdsourced testing would be the way forward – and we should be thankful for this, Ars advised. "The goal is to make the OS team work more like lean startups," we learned. Lean. Agile. Heard this one before?

"QA still exists and is still important, but it performs end-user style 'real world' testing, not programmatic automated testing. This testing has been successful for Bing, improving the team's ability to ship changes without harming overall software quality," Bright wrote.
So we, the end users are the beta testers in effect, if that article is anything to go by.




WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

270 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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TonyRPH said:
So we, the end users are the beta testers in effect, if that article is anything to go by.
And try explaining that to a (rightly pissed off) customer.