Project and Visio on a Mac
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craigjm

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Friday 8th February 2019
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Company I work for has a BYOD policy. I have used macs for years and would like to continue to do so. The problem is that it will be required to run project and visio. Now as you are all probably aware these are not available for the Mac. Now I know there are programmes that do similar but this is non negotiable it has to be the MS versions as absolute compatibility is required no arguments.

So, aside from portioning the HD and running Windows on part of it I understand there are “packaging programmes” such as Wine that allow you, allegedly, to run Windows programmes in the Mac environment

Anyone using anything like this and does it work seamlessly?

plasticpig

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Friday 8th February 2019
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I use Parallels Desktop on my Macbook Pro. This offers pretty much seamless integration into the OSX desktop.

craigjm

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plasticpig said:
I use Parallels Desktop on my Macbook Pro. This offers pretty much seamless integration into the OSX desktop.
Isn’t that basically opening up windows within a window though? The stuff I have seen like Wine appears to package the application so it runs from OSX as if it is native

This is what I was looking at

https://www.winehq.org

Edited by craigjm on Friday 8th February 08:07

plasticpig

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Friday 8th February 2019
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Windows application appear in the dock and can run in full screen mode. You can hide the windows desktop so it's seamless.

craigjm

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plasticpig said:
Windows application appear in the dock and can run in full screen mode. You can hide the windows desktop so it's seamless.
Do you need to have a Windows licence? I have watched a couple of their demos online and it would appear you could have project and Visio in your dock and you only see windows when you click on them to start up. What happens if you click a Visio or project file in your documents? Does it refuse to open or does it know it’s associaged with parallels?

Are there any performance issues? Have you noticed any glitches?

Looks a bit less complicated than wine

plasticpig

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craigjm said:
Do you need to have a Windows licence? I have watched a couple of their demos online and it would appear you could have project and Visio in your dock and you only see windows when you click on them to start up. What happens if you click a Visio or project file in your documents? Does it refuse to open or does it know it’s associaged with parallels?

Are there any performance issues? Have you noticed any glitches?

Looks a bit less complicated than wine
You can associate a file extension to a windows application. You do need a Windows licence.

craigjm

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plasticpig said:
You can associate a file extension to a windows application. You do need a Windows licence.
OK cool I’ll give it a go then

Buffalo

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Friday 8th February 2019
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I use omniplan and omnigraffle on my Macs and have zero compatibility issues with ms Visio & project. They're not expensive and very impressive, worth a try?

craigjm

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Buffalo said:
I use omniplan and omnigraffle on my Macs and have zero compatibility issues with ms Visio & project. They're not expensive and very impressive, worth a try?
Nope. That’s why I made that clear in my first post.

Troubleatmill

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Friday 8th February 2019
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Windows licence + parallels.

Just don't try high end gaming on Windows Virtual machine.

All is good

craigjm

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Troubleatmill said:
Windows licence + parallels.

Just don't try high end gaming on Windows Virtual machine.

All is good
Won’t be any gaming on it. Business machine only

Buffalo

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Friday 8th February 2019
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craigjm said:
Buffalo said:
I use omniplan and omnigraffle on my Macs and have zero compatibility issues with ms Visio & project. They're not expensive and very impressive, worth a try?
Nope. That’s why I made that clear in my first post.
Yes, but in particular these two programs have absolute compatibility otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned them. smile (Same stipulation with some of my clients but we use them and they are none the wiser).

For Windows based programs I use VMware Fusion. I found it superior to parallels, particularly if the program demands a lot of performance, as you can customise the VM environment more.


Edited by Buffalo on Friday 8th February 22:03

Troubleatmill

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craigjm said:
Troubleatmill said:
Windows licence + parallels.

Just don't try high end gaming on Windows Virtual machine.

All is good
Won’t be any gaming on it. Business machine only
Its what I have - and works perfectly.

Enjoy.

craigjm

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Monday 1st April 2019
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OK so If finally done this and got them both running in parallels and it works great. I have the icons in the dock and they launch pretty much like a Mac programme and I can click on. File and it will open straight away.

Two questions

There is a parallels icon in the dock which is an iMac screen with the two red vertical lines. Is there a way of removing this from the dock as I will never use it

The icons for project and Visio have the parallels red lines on them. Is there a way of replacing them with the originals with no lines?

thebraketester

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Monday 1st April 2019
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Drag it out of the dock.

craigjm

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thebraketester said:
Drag it out of the dock.
Haha I’m not a Mac newbie I’ve had them for about 15 years so tried that but it doesn’t work it just springs back and doesn’t go anywhere if you select remove from dock

Brainpox

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Monday 1st April 2019
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craigjm said:
Haha I’m not a Mac newbie I’ve had them for about 15 years so tried that but it doesn’t work it just springs back and doesn’t go anywhere if you select remove from dock
Not used it myself but most apps with this behaviour will have an option in the settings that lets you move it to the menu bar rather than persistently sitting in the dock.

mmm-five

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Monday 1st April 2019
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If Parallels is running, then it will always show in the dock (unless the app offers an option to have it running in the background with just a small menu bar icon).

If it's not running, then you can drag (& hold it out of the dock for a couple of seconds) to remove the icon.

craigjm

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mmm-five said:
If Parallels is running, then it will always show in the dock (unless the app offers an option to have it running in the background with just a small menu bar icon).

If it's not running, then you can drag (& hold it out of the dock for a couple of seconds) to remove the icon.
Yeah that’s right but the problem I have is that when it’s not running it remains in the dock even though keep in dock is not ticked and when you drag it to the bin it just bounces out and goes back to the dock

thebraketester

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Hmm strange. The only reason why it would bounce back into the dock is if the os thinks its still running.... have you looked in the activity monitor?