Which graphics card?
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Origin Unknown

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2,498 posts

200 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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I have an HP desktop that contains a AMD Radeon R5 435 and an Intel HD Graphics 630. I would like dual HDMI out. I play X-plane which is about the limit of my game playing. Not looking to spend a huge amount. Any advise on what card I should buy?

Cheers

littlebasher

3,970 posts

202 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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What power supply do you have, will it take a more powerful card?

GTX1050ti probably a good bet, plus gets all its power from the motherboard so would suit a smaller PSU

FourWheelDrift

92,393 posts

315 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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What CPU are you running? If it's going to cause a bottleneck to a more powerful GPU then you won't get the benefit anyway.

As a guide a GTX1050 is about 3 times better than your Radeon.

Radeon R5 435 - https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-r5-43...

GTX 1050 - https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-...

Origin Unknown

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200 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Thank you chaps, this is the desktop here https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c05444432

It's an i7-7700 with 16GB RAM and a 180w PSU. I guess I need to check if the card will fit also.

FourWheelDrift

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315 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Am I going mad here or is an R5 435 an unbelievably crap graphics card to install to an i7 7700 system?

I''s say a GTX 1060 minimum for that one. A 1050 would actually be a bottleneck to the CPU.

This - http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculato... suggests at least a 400W PSU with a GTX 1060.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 18th February 11:08

Origin Unknown

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Monday 18th February 2019
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It really is not a good GPU, X-Plane eventually gives up trying to find a resolution it can run at. Either way, I've just bought a second 27" monitor to match the existing so would like dual HDMI out and a sensible performance. 1060 looks good doesn't it?

FourWheelDrift

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315 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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1060 is good, they come in 3GB and 6GB versions.

3GB - £175.46 - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/evga-geforce-gtx-1...

6GB - £199.98 - https://www.ebuyer.com/755849-gigabyte-gtx-1060-wi...

For the sake of £20 I'd go with the 6GB version, it will handle large textures better anyway.

I used PC Part picker - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c... and recognised names in Gfx cards and supply. Plus I went for the 6GB Gigabyte card over the 6GB MSI as it's slightly overclocked already.

snuffy

13,464 posts

315 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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A GTX1060 needs a 400W minimum PSU, and the OP's PSU is 180W.

So that's a bit of showstopper because I'd be amazed if it will even power up.

Derek Smith

50,017 posts

279 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I don't play games.

I had major problems with the motherboard-based Radeon graphics drivers. I bought a 2-gig NVIDIA Ge-Force and the whole machine is a lot more stable.

I run 2 x 24" screens at 1920 by 1080, and use my desktop for picture and video editing, DTP and writing. I now have no problems. 2-gig is ample for me.

chris285

812 posts

163 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Yeah you need to budget a new PSU as well as GPU based on your current specs

annodomini2

6,974 posts

282 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I would wait a couple of weeks, Nvidia have a glut of cards, due to lost interest in Crypto-currencies. So we may see prices fall shortly.

maffski

1,905 posts

190 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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It's an odd layout of motherboard, which means most graphics cards will foul the power connector (24 pin ATX bottom right). Perhaps a 1050/1050ti single fan will fit but I suspect not.


ArsE92

21,387 posts

218 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Nothing decent will work with a 180W PSU, so you would need a new PSU plus the graphics card.

I've recently upgraded my gaming PC so I've got my old PC that I need to sell.

Intel Core i5-7400
8GB DDR4
120GB SSD
1TB HDD
NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB

I paid £840 on 1st Jan 2018. Here's a link to the same PC on Amazon

I've got a Logitech yoke and throttle quadrant that can be used with Xplane too.

Happy to do a PH-mates rates deal if you're interested.

Origin Unknown

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Monday 18th February 2019
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Not looking to change the PC as the spec is just what I need par the GPU.

I see what you mean RE the limited space between the 24 pin power and the PCI-E slot. I'll have to open the case, measure up and see if what cards will fit. I wonder if a 90degree 24 pin connector would fix the space issue. Anyone know what PSU will fit this chassis? Is there an easy way to tell?

ArsE92

21,387 posts

218 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Origin Unknown said:
Not looking to change the PC as the spec is just what I need par the GPU.

I see what you mean RE the limited space between the 24 pin power and the PCI-E slot. I'll have to open the case, measure up and see if what cards will fit. I wonder if a 90degree 24 pin connector would fix the space issue. Anyone know what PSU will fit this chassis? Is there an easy way to tell?
It looks like a fairly standard-sized PSU.

Some chat about what you're trying to do here.

I think the issue will be finding a card that fits. If it's a SFF card, how is that achieved? Fewer fans and therefore less ability to cool thus lower clock-speed?