Will 5G make home broadband redundant?
Will 5G make home broadband redundant?
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Bikerjon

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2,211 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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The launch of 5G largely passed me by a few weeks ago, but I was just reading about the technical specs regarding speed and didn't realise how big a jump from 4G this all is. In terms of bandwidth there's talk of tens of Gbps rather than Mbps, so it got me thinking how this will impact home broadband connections as we know it?

With FTTP "only" offering about 300Mbps currently, 5G could - in theory at least - leapfrog that completely and make even the fastest fixed line domestic connections pointless. Now I realise this is entirely dependent on the rollout and I guess it's probably a decade away before there's significant coverage, but I wonder if 5G will truly mean the end of slow broadband and people will switch to the mobile networks for their home internet connection too? Or will the service providers just package everything up with data caps and make it too expensive?

Just wondered if anyone is working in this area and has some insight?

mudnomad

4,033 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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I cancelled my broadband six months ago and have been using my Vodafone phone contract ever since, tethering when needed. 40Gb for £25 lasts me whole month easily enough. That's including watching F1 highlights and top gear abroad regularly.

Scobblelotcher

1,724 posts

143 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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I don't work in that area however currently there are many issues with wireless connections.

4G is a good example, location determines signal quality and weather can also affect signal quality. Finally latency is often a problem with wireless connections.

If 5G could some of these issues, I'm sure it will be a great success if the pricing/packaging is affordable for the average user.

Personally, I would currently preference a wired connection unless something drastically changes.

otolith

69,616 posts

235 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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My broadband is slower than my 4G connection at home. But mostly more reliable. I have seriously considered binning the landline.

robbieduncan

1,993 posts

267 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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I'm pretty sure to get good 5G speed you need line of site to the transmitter and even rain noticeably reduces speed. I'll keep my wires thanks

SV_WDC

1,192 posts

120 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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5G sounds promising but history has shown us that as bandwith increases so do the service requirements of the people/apps/companies using it.

No doubt a viable & potentially cheaper solution for those in the countryside where it's not worthwhile for businesses to start laying miles of expensive fibre optic for a few homes benefit.

thebraketester

15,835 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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I got 111Mbps sat in a pub in Glasgow a while back.... If they could roll that out with 98% coverage then most of is could drop our broadband packages.

boxst

3,806 posts

176 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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5G has great speed but short range so the roll out in any great numbers will take years. In cities they are talking about mesh networks using lampposts (good idea, they have power and are quite regularly spaced) but if you are in the city you can probably get good broadband at home.

In the countryside it will take a long time to get any penetration of 5G, which is why I'm amused by all the scare mongering about 5G being bad for you and used by the government to track you.

Having said all of that, I live in the middle of no-where and for some reason Openreach decided to put FTTP a few months ago. Awesome for me (I get 330/50) but I can't imagine economical for them so perhaps they will speed up the roll out of 5G as well.

otolith

69,616 posts

235 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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SV_WDC said:
5G sounds promising but history has shown us that as bandwith increases so do the service requirements of the people/apps/companies using it.

No doubt a viable & potentially cheaper solution for those in the countryside where it's not worthwhile for businesses to start laying miles of expensive fibre optic for a few homes benefit.
Ironically, it's likely to turn up first in places with fast broadband.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

211 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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But if all home broadband usage went onto 5G - what effect would that have?

I do think it will be inevitable though - maybe 5g or maybe 6g


Bikerjon

Original Poster:

2,211 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Scobblelotcher said:
I don't work in that area however currently there are many issues with wireless connections.

4G is a good example, location determines signal quality and weather can also affect signal quality. Finally latency is often a problem with wireless connections.

If 5G could some of these issues, I'm sure it will be a great success if the pricing/packaging is affordable for the average user.

Personally, I would currently preference a wired connection unless something drastically changes.
Yes I was thinking much the same and assumed 5G was just an incremental upgrade from 4G, however when I read of ping times of 1ms (yes 1!) and Gbps bandwidth then this could actually be a game-changer, well in theory at least!

super7

2,275 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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So when will your wired router be replaced by a 5G router with an aerial on the roof?

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

176 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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otolith said:
My broadband is slower than my 4G connection at home. But mostly more reliable. I have seriously considered binning the landline.
Same here.

w1bbles

1,366 posts

167 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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super7 said:
So when will your wired router be replaced by a 5G router with an aerial on the roof?
My wired router has been replaced by a 4G EE one. Much better and so far more reliable. But I do live in the sticks where there is thankfully O2, Vodafone and EE 4G coverage.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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It would be nice to get 3g where I live.

Personally I think the providers should be out under pressure to make their current landscape more reliable and widespread

thebraketester

15,835 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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keirik said:
It would be nice to get 3g where I live.

Personally I think the providers should be out under pressure to make their current landscape more reliable and widespread
I can't believe that the UK doesnt have 100% 3G coverage by now.... its rediculous

Twiglets

698 posts

199 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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I can see a giant Tesco from my house (other side of a river) so we’re not even in the middle of nowhere but struggle to get a solid 3G signal, our broadband is a manageable 5mb/s but according to BT there’s no plans to improve anything in the near future, I can’t see 5g being any part of my life unless I move.

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

177 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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In short, no.
As 5G uses radio waves that are subjected to atmospherics and bandwidth restrictions of the equipment and the amount of users they can have on one cell, it wont make broadband redundant for home use. For mobile use 5G should be a great improvement though smile

GT03ROB

14,035 posts

252 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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I have a fairly decent broadband connection.... but I cannot get a mobile signal so no chance here.

megaphone

11,716 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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I made a statement on a thread a couple of years ago that 'wired' broadband would be mostly obsolete within 10 years. I was chastised by some. I stick by my statement.

A lot of consumer internet usage is already by mobile data, I have nieces and nephews who only ever use mobile data, they don't even bother to connect to WiFi, they only use their mobiles, never use a PC.