Choosing a Mac for University
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FlabbyMidgets

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539 posts

118 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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My girlfriend is starting a masters course soon, and the most used piece of software is Logic Pro. To make things easier she's decided she wants a Mac, and has outsourced the decision to me, who has subsequently outsourced here.

I'm pretty good with computers, phones etc, as long as they are windows and android. We have both only ever used Windows and the last apple product I used was an ipod nano. I have absolutely no idea when it comes to Apple stuff.

Could someone recommend what may be best? I don't know if buying old/refurb products is worthwhile, or just get new? From looking it seems like the Pro would be needed and not the air, but I'm not too sure. She doesn't really want to spend £1500 or so on a laptop so any savings would be appreciated.

Thanks, any help would be much appreciated

NDA

25,771 posts

256 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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I've recently replaced my 2013 Air with the 2019 MacBook Pro (13"). A very good machine and probably the pick of the bunch at the moment.

You should get a discount for being a student too.


AJB88

15,960 posts

202 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Student discount will be available and go for the pro if shes going to be using it as part of of the course, which it does sound like she will be.

Wilmslowboy

4,773 posts

237 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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No student discount at the moment - instead a free pair of beats headphones.
Bought my daughter a pro a couple weeks ago, as you suggested very expensive.

Saying that I have late 2016 'pro', myself that has probably been used on average 50 hours a week for a solid 2 years. (Work during the day and studies in the eve/weekend) - still going strong.


Progressive

1,288 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Wilmslowboy said:
No student discount at the moment - instead a free pair of beats headphones.
Bought my daughter a pro a couple weeks ago, as you suggested very expensive.
That is incorrect. As a registered student (or teacher) you receive the (approx. 10%) year round on all qualifying products. The annual 'back to school' promotion which runs for a month around this time of year sees the Beats headphones thrown in.

You should be able to log in to the Apple Education store using your Unidays account, which is free with any UK university e-mail address.

mikeiow

8,197 posts

161 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Just FYI, we have 3 in the family here with 2014 MBPr (MacBook Pro retina) units....still happily in use: the quality of those units was remarkable.
They went through a phase of dodgy (bad, low travel....had pals who hated them!) keyboards for a few years, but we are told the recent ones are better.

Max out the CPU/memory - there is no room for expansion in the Apple world (one reason I like our old ones....got a 256GB SD card taking mine to 768GB!)

& yes, get the student discount (I think it was about 10%....& occasionally they offer free beats headphones!). Back then, students got a free warranty extension too, worth having.

FlabbyMidgets

Original Poster:

539 posts

118 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Thanks for the info about student discount. Does anyone have suggestions on what spec is needed to be able to run the logic Pro software and basic word processing etc. The cheapest new from the Apple site seems to be around £1300, and then adding £200 for the software, this is much more than she would like to spend even with discount but it seems a be necessary evil. Is it worth looking at second hand or refurbished units or just go new?

craig1912

4,679 posts

143 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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FlabbyMidgets said:
Thanks for the info about student discount. Does anyone have suggestions on what spec is needed to be able to run the logic Pro software and basic word processing etc. The cheapest new from the Apple site seems to be around £1300, and then adding £200 for the software, this is much more than she would like to spend even with discount but it seems a be necessary evil. Is it worth looking at second hand or refurbished units or just go new?
https://www.apple.com/uk/logic-pro/specs/

Progressive

1,288 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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FlabbyMidgets said:
Thanks for the info about student discount. Does anyone have suggestions on what spec is needed to be able to run the logic Pro software and basic word processing etc. The cheapest new from the Apple site seems to be around £1300, and then adding £200 for the software, this is much more than she would like to spend even with discount but it seems a be necessary evil. Is it worth looking at second hand or refurbished units or just go new?
The current base-spec MBP will be sufficient for those tasks. If doing very intensive editing work then you may need a higher spec. Though I suspect this may not be the case.

TheRainMaker

7,886 posts

273 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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We buy all our work apple stuff from the refurb store.

Never had a problem yet, but not sure if you will get your discount so might not be worth while.

FlabbyMidgets

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539 posts

118 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Progressive said:
The current base-spec MBP will be sufficient for those tasks. If doing very intensive editing work then you may need a higher spec. Though I suspect this may not be the case.
Thank you, this is what I was wondering. Its a Masters course in song writing and production, I don't know what sort of intensity it will be software wise.

thebraketester

15,834 posts

169 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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There is running logic pro... and there is running logic pro....

Most macs will run it with a small number of tracks and plugins. Bit if she needs it to run 40 tracks with lots of plugins then you'll need a fairly well spec'd Macbook pro at mimumim.

FlabbyMidgets

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539 posts

118 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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thebraketester said:
There is running logic pro... and there is running logic pro....

Most macs will run it with a small number of tracks and plugins. Bit if she needs it to run 40 tracks with lots of plugins then you'll need a fairly well spec'd Macbook pro at mimumim.
Thanks, the base spec seems good compared to the minimum requirements, but I don't know what sort of power will be needed. I've priced up the base-spec, it comes to approx £1350 including the software bundle (with logic Pro) and a free pair of beats headphones thrown in too, doesn't seem too bad. The next one up would be approx £500 more it seems

thebraketester

15,834 posts

169 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Your g/f should know what she's expects from the software and buy accordingly.

Does she need portability? If not then mac minis are a good option.

TheRainMaker

7,886 posts

273 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Sell the head phones, some money saved right there.

FlabbyMidgets

Original Poster:

539 posts

118 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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thebraketester said:
Your g/f should know what she's expects from the software and buy accordingly.

Does she need portability? If not then mac minis are a good option.
She hasn't started the course yet, has been to the induction and basically been told we only use logic Pro here, you should buy a mac. She hasn't had chance to use the software yet, or a mac.

She will be commuting by train every day so would need to be portable.

mmm-five

12,396 posts

315 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Base spec may have a tiny SSD and limited memory, and the very fast internal 128gb SSD will be taken up by the system and the install (63gb for the full Logic Pro X install), plus you'll need plenty of space for plug-ins & tracks.

If you don't already have a very fast external SSD for extra storage, you may want to go to the 256gb model, and 16gb memory - which takes you to £1879 (with Logic Pro X and before any discounts).

A refurb will probably save you another 10-20% on the retail price though - and there are faster ones with the 256gb SSD on there...e.g.
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/FV962B/A/ref... (with a £270 saving on the £1799 2.4ghz model with faster graphics)

21TonyK

13,380 posts

240 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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A couple of years back my daughter bought what was then the new model MB Pro off eBay as an ex-dealer demo machine/refurb.

Machine was like new, still had protective film on bits of it. Full warranty still and saved her well over a grand on full list price.

Worth having a look.

Wilmslowboy

4,773 posts

237 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Progressive said:
That is incorrect. As a registered student (or teacher) you receive the (approx. 10%) year round on all qualifying products. The annual 'back to school' promotion which runs for a month around this time of year sees the Beats headphones thrown in.

You should be able to log in to the Apple Education store using your Unidays account, which is free with any UK university e-mail address.
hmm, yep - your right.....wife and daughter failed to mention that £151 cash discount biggrin







gregs656

12,422 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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IMO the 2015 MBPs are the pick of them. That’s what I’d be shopping for if I didn’t have the budget for a new machine.