Thinking of buying a new Mac?
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FourWheelDrift

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92,350 posts

314 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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Wait a bit, prices may come down.

Apple to use Intel processors.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4617139.stm

Bodo

12,609 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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What will this mean for the future?

In 2020, there will be only two operating systmes and one hardware platform (x86). The market will be divided between MS Windows and Linux. Apple will offer their own Linux distribution with a Macintosh desktop, which is then easily ported from the Darwin kernel.

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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Hmm was possibly looking at getting one of these too in my recent laptop searchhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3712&item=6775520272&rd=1

BB

deckster

9,631 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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Bodo said:
What will this mean for the future?

In 2020, there will be only two operating systmes and one hardware platform (x86). The market will be divided between MS Windows and Linux. Apple will offer their own Linux distribution with a Macintosh desktop, which is then easily ported from the Darwin kernel.


What *are* you talking about? By 2010 desktop operating systems will be completely irrelevant. Nobody gives a stuff what hardware or OS their electronics run on as the prime diffentiator will be interoperability and functionality. Home entertainment will centre around an iPod base unit that wirelessly streams data to your PS5 and your personal assistant that is, of course, a multimedia player and PIM as well as your only phone. There may well be Windows or Linux or PalmOS or Symbian underlying the GUI, and it may or may not run on an x86, PowerPC, ARM or Cell processor but nobody will care.

All of this is pretty much available now; it'll be standard in a few years time.

Back on topic - this has been on the cards for ages. Apple first ported to x86 in the early '90s but never released it; NeXT turned to x86 shortly before dying and OSX is just NeXT with prettier icons. PowerPC is only still going as a platform because of Apple and they've not delivered on their promises for years.

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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By 2020 I bloody better have an implanted mobile phone with a corneal implant to interface me directly with the old interweb, or else I'm going to ring up the BBC and complain about tomorrows world...

Bodo

12,609 posts

296 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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deckster said:

What *are* you talking about? By 2010 desktop operating systems will be completely irrelevant.
2010 is in five years. What equally drastic changes happened in the last five years to support your claim?

zumbruk

7,848 posts

290 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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deckster said:

PowerPC is only still going as a platform because of Apple


Oh, that and the millions of dollars of p-Series servers and the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Cell processors in games consoles.

Not all the world is home computers, you know.

zumbruk

7,848 posts

290 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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Ballistic Banana said:
Hmm was possibly looking at getting one of these too in my recent laptop searchhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3712&item=6775520272&rd=1

BB


Auction withdrawn ...

deckster

9,631 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Bodo said:

deckster said:

What *are* you talking about? By 2010 desktop operating systems will be completely irrelevant.

2010 is in five years. What equally drastic changes happened in the last five years to support your claim?


Um. Lots. How well could your phone play MP3s in 2000? Could your PDA navigate you through Belgium? Could you play your CD collection simultaneously through your hifi, your TV and your computer, without anything actually being physically connected? The rate of technological convergence has been quite astounding and is showing no signs of letting up.

deckster

9,631 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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zumbruk said:

deckster said:

PowerPC is only still going as a platform because of Apple



Oh, that and the millions of dollars of p-Series servers and the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Cell processors in games consoles.


Yeah, I thought that after I posted. Was just hoping nobody would notice

zumbruk said:
Not all the world is home computers, you know.


That was actually rather the thrust of my post if you hadn't noticed...

Bodo

12,609 posts

296 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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deckster said:
Bodo said:


deckster said:

What *are* you talking about? By 2010 desktop operating systems will be completely irrelevant.

2010 is in five years. What equally drastic changes happened in the last five years to support your claim? smile


Um. Lots. How well could your phone play MP3s in 2000? Could your PDA navigate you through Belgium? Could you play your CD collection simultaneously through your hifi, your TV and your computer, without anything actually being physically connected? The rate of technological convergence has been quite astounding and is showing no signs of letting up.
What were the biggest innovations in the past five years? Netbooks, smart-phones; the latter perhaps the biggest innovation driver with GPS and augmented reality, flatrate online contracts, and a switch in market driving from network operators to hardware vendors.

Not a lot happened on the operating system front; Windows, OSX, Linux with almost constant market shares. Mobile OS account for 1.3% of web use as we speak. This will probably change in future, as new hard- and software has recently been launched: Android, ipad, ChromeOS. Windows mobile has been relaunched as Windows Phone; an attempt of MS to defend against the open-source-based competition from Apple and Google.

There's generally a move towards open-source in devices that are now getting computing functions. Apps in your car? Intel, BMW, GM and other companies are pushing Genivi, a Linux-based OS for vehicle infotainment platforms with API for apps. No surprise: automotive OEM do not fancy single source supplier concepts.

There's still more to come - just a matter of time until our fridges have an operating system.

Chimune

4,319 posts

253 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Did you mean to reply to a 4 half year old thread ?

mattley

3,039 posts

252 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Bodo said:
There's still more to come - just a matter of time until our fridges have an operating system.
Why not, he's still 9 years behind the times

http://www.reviewsonline.com/articles/980998102.ht...

hehe

skwdenyer

18,707 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Chimune said:
Did you mean to reply to a 4 half year old thread ?
I believe he did, yes - from "by 2010..." to "now we're here in 2010..." in one easy step!

Man-At-Arms

5,920 posts

209 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Chimune said:
Did you mean to reply to a 4 half year old thread ?
how far back in the archives was this thread ?

Mr Noble

6,538 posts

263 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Man-At-Arms said:
how far back in the archives was this thread ?
About 4.5 years back wink

Bodo

12,609 posts

296 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Chimune said:
Did you mean to reply to a 4 half year old thread ?
The conjunction with the topic gives it away smile

Chimune

4,319 posts

253 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Mybad - i didnt read the quoted paras form 2005 ! It makes sense now - but i feel obliged to ask:

Have you been waiting all this time, just to prove your (much much) earlier point ? tongue out

Bodo

12,609 posts

296 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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Chimune said:
Mybad - i didnt read the quoted paras form 2005 ! It makes sense now - but i feel obliged to ask:

Have you been waiting all this time, just to prove your (much much) earlier point ? tongue out
Sorry for late reply: no, I have a short attention span, and was busy with fixing my Land Rover in between.

markbigears

2,485 posts

299 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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Brilliant!! smile