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EarlofDrift

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4,728 posts

139 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Currently working from home and have two systems at once on Three machines. Editing on Windows 7 Professional on a HP Elite from work and doing creative work on PS on my 4k iMac and MacBook Pro Retina. After a week it's becoming apparent that this isn't a great way to work.

I remember about a decade ago there was something called Parallel Desktop which meant you could run Windows within the Mac OS and another which you could partition part of your HD and chose which to run on.

Is this still a thing or is there an easier way to do things in 2020?

Also I've got quite a lot of old software from the early 2000's and a few classic games. If I was to install Windows OS on the Mac would I be able to run these on the Superdrive. I've got a 3.3Ghz iMac Quad Core with about 750GB of storage left and about 16GB RAM so speed and performance isn't an issue.

megaphone

11,695 posts

282 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Main two are Parallels or VMWare Fusion. I have the later and it works very well. Have Win 10, Win 7, XP and Ubuntu running on my Mac. Can drag and drop across platform, can share desktops if you want.

phope

1,050 posts

171 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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I use Parallels for some work stuff and Windows only car diagnostics software

Works very well, and I've tried out several Linux installs in the past as well. I've had no hassle either connecting hardware via USB and USB-C either




mmm-five

12,396 posts

315 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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It's more or less what I've been doing since Mac came with Intel chips...in fact did it before that using Virtual PC, but it was terribly slow.

I use VMWare Fusion for the stuff where I need to quickly switch/share between MacOS/Windows and use Bootcamp when I need the full capabilities of Windows (mainly GPU-intensive gamestasks), or when I know I'm going to be in Windows all day, as it runs at full speed directly on the hardware, rather than slower through a virtual machine.

I have both Mac & Windows licenses for all the software I use though - so staying in Mac or Windows all day is rarely a problem - and I tend to only swap as the clients' needs require.

Either way you will need a W10 license for the iMac.

Edited by mmm-five on Tuesday 31st March 10:01

silentbrown

10,991 posts

147 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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mmm-five said:
Either way you will need a W10 license for the iMac.
The other option is using Bootcamp on a Mac. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/boot-camp

I used this daily on a retina MBP for about 5 years. Not great if you need to work in both Mac and Windows worlds simultaneously, but the definitely the best way of just running Windows on Mac hardware..

Re Win 10, simply download Windows 10 from Microsoft and not bother to activate it!

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-get...

BigTZ4M

237 posts

202 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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I used to use bootcamp on my old Macbook Air and currently run Parallels on my Macbook Pro.

I don't use particularly intensive Windows-only software so the added flexibility of running both OSX and W10 simultaneously on Parallels is more useful.

The experience is pretty good and after a year or so of using it, once settled in, I can only think of two drawbacks that affect me:

1. The keyboard mapping between OSX and W10 means one of them is always going to be wrong without lots of fiddling. This would be the same whatever solution you use and it's only \ and # that still fox me from time to time
2. Massive drain on battery running both OSs at the same time. No combination of Windows and OSX power saving features seem to get me more than a few hours if running both. Again, this isn't really a surprise but something to consider if it matters to you.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

190 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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EarlofDrift said:
Currently working from home and have two systems at once on Three machines. Editing on Windows 7 Professional on a HP Elite from work and doing creative work on PS on my 4k iMac and MacBook Pro Retina. After a week it's becoming apparent that this isn't a great way to work.

I remember about a decade ago there was something called Parallel Desktop which meant you could run Windows within the Mac OS and another which you could partition part of your HD and chose which to run on.

Is this still a thing or is there an easier way to do things in 2020?

Also I've got quite a lot of old software from the early 2000's and a few classic games. If I was to install Windows OS on the Mac would I be able to run these on the Superdrive. I've got a 3.3Ghz iMac Quad Core with about 750GB of storage left and about 16GB RAM so speed and performance isn't an issue.
You are right - Parallels is exactly what you need.
I use it daily.
Forget Bootcamp.... ( unless you are doing heavy duty CAD stuff ).

It is a subscription model now.... but worth every penny.

Zero issues so far over 6 years.

mikef

6,158 posts

282 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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If you’re an occasional windows user and not running anything too demanding, VirtualBox is free from Oracle. Of the much slicker paid options, I’d say Fusion is a bit faster and Parallels integrates better with Mac OS. I’ve used both and settled for Parallels. The only downside is that they have moved to an annual subscription licensing model

trumptriple

211 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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I have Windows 7 running on an iMac at work, been using it for about 4 years. It's pretty good but is rreeeaaalllllyyy slow to boot into Windows. Once it's up and running it's good, but has crashed out of VMWare maybe 10 times in 4 years - so not bad.


khushy

3,984 posts

250 months

Wednesday 1st April 2020
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Parallels for me - 5 years with winxp and 8.1 - no crashes - even runs a windows device via usb when I need it

Had VMWare to begin with. - unreliable for me so I ditched it

OlonMusky

708 posts

85 months

Wednesday 1st April 2020
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VirtualBox is the cheapest but also not the fastest. It's good for occasional work but I struggle to use it for longer than just logging on every now and then.

It sucks about Parallels, I didn't realise they changed their business model. They want 99.99usd per year which I believe is the same as what it used to cost to buy a copy you'd own and use indefinitely. What a bunch of ...

I'd go VMWare Fusion in this case. Or best Bootcamp if you need raw power.

nyt

1,939 posts

181 months

Wednesday 1st April 2020
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There is a 2 week free trial of Parallels: https://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/trial/

There is a non-subscription version, but they usually make you buy a new version with every major macos version change

Heres the cheapest that I can see on their site: https://buy.parallels.com/329/?scope=checkout&...