New MS Surface Go 2 and Book 3 announced

[ajprice]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/06...

Go has a bigger screen and m3 processor option. Book has 10th gen Core processors and a quadro graphics option.

[Horace Van Khute]

I got pretty excited about Surface Book 3... but then I read that those puttanas ship it with W10 Home not Pro. Great job Microsoft.

[randlemarcus]

Horace Van Khute said:

I got pretty excited about Surface Book 3... but then I read that those puttanas ship it with W10 Home not Pro. Great job Microsoft.

Home, Pro, Enterprise. Just a code to change it, it's all the same codebase.

[Horace Van Khute]

randlemarcus said:

Horace Van Khute said:

I got pretty excited about Surface Book 3... but then I read that those puttanas ship it with W10 Home not Pro. Great job Microsoft.

Home, Pro, Enterprise. Just a code to change it, it's all the same codebase.

Oh, OK, if I buy this I could call MS and they will give me a code to upgrade to Pro or Enterprise free of charge?

[GuyW]

Horace Van Khute said:

I got pretty excited about Surface Book 3... but then I read that those puttanas ship it with W10 Home not Pro. Great job Microsoft.

You'll want the Surface Book 3 For Business SKU then.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/surface-book-3/8...

Microsoft said:

Surface Book 3 for consumers comes with Windows 10 Home to bring you the powerful Windows features you use most at exceptional value. If you need additional enterprise management and security tools for the workplace, you can switch to Windows 10 Pro or purchase Surface Book 3 for Business.

[Horace Van Khute]

GuyW said:

Horace Van Khute said:

I got pretty excited about Surface Book 3... but then I read that those puttanas ship it with W10 Home not Pro. Great job Microsoft.

You'll want the Surface Book 3 For Business SKU then.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/surface-book-3/8...

Microsoft said:

Surface Book 3 for consumers comes with Windows 10 Home to bring you the powerful Windows features you use most at exceptional value. If you need additional enterprise management and security tools for the workplace, you can switch to Windows 10 Pro or purchase Surface Book 3 for Business.

Well yeah of course I can, that's obvious and that's not the point. They are selling it as a "Pro" machine.

[zippy3x]

Horace Van Khute said:

Well yeah of course I can, that's obvious and that's not the point. They are selling it as a "Pro" machine.

Were you equally annoyed when Mercedes sold the AMG C63 Black in silver?

[Horace Van Khute]

zippy3x said:

Horace Van Khute said:

Well yeah of course I can, that's obvious and that's not the point. They are selling it as a "Pro" machine.

Were you equally annoyed when Mercedes sold the AMG C63 Black in silver?

You need to rethink that statement.

[geeks]

Horace Van Khute said:

GuyW said:

Horace Van Khute said:

I got pretty excited about Surface Book 3... but then I read that those puttanas ship it with W10 Home not Pro. Great job Microsoft.

You'll want the Surface Book 3 For Business SKU then.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/surface-book-3/8...

Microsoft said:

Surface Book 3 for consumers comes with Windows 10 Home to bring you the powerful Windows features you use most at exceptional value. If you need additional enterprise management and security tools for the workplace, you can switch to Windows 10 Pro or purchase Surface Book 3 for Business.

Well yeah of course I can, that's obvious and that's not the point. They are selling it as a "Pro" machine.

What do you need from Pro that isn't in Home?

[Horace Van Khute]

geeks said:

What do you need from Pro that isn't in Home?

Thank you, I've been waiting for this comment.

[geeks]

Horace Van Khute said:

geeks said:

What do you need from Pro that isn't in Home?

Thank you, I've been waiting for this comment.

It was a question, not a comment, one you have failed to answer....

[Horace Van Khute]

geeks said:

Horace Van Khute said:

geeks said:

What do you need from Pro that isn't in Home?

Thank you, I've been waiting for this comment.

It was a question, not a comment, one you have failed to answer....

Ah first the gaslighting now the entitlement, love that!

[stemll]

Horace Van Khute said:

geeks said:

Horace Van Khute said:

geeks said:

What do you need from Pro that isn't in Home?

Thank you, I've been waiting for this comment.

It was a question, not a comment, one you have failed to answer....

Ah first the gaslighting now the entitlement, love that!

Alternatvely you could just answer the question. End of the day, it's only a laptop so install whatever you want. You already have the answer, either buy the business SKU or "upgrade" Home to Pro which is not free, something around the £100 mark if you do it from the Win 10 Store

[Horace Van Khute]

stemll said:

Horace Van Khute said:

geeks said:

Horace Van Khute said:

geeks said:

What do you need from Pro that isn't in Home?

Thank you, I've been waiting for this comment.

It was a question, not a comment, one you have failed to answer....

Ah first the gaslighting now the entitlement, love that!

Alternatvely you could just answer the question. End of the day, it's only a laptop so install whatever you want. You already have the answer, either buy the business SKU or "upgrade" Home to Pro which is not free, something around the £100 mark if you do it from the Win 10 Store

Alternatively you can just stop being an apologist.

Let me flip it so that you (maybe) understand this situation better. Imagine this was a fullfat Mercedes AMG and they put 1 litre engine into it and capped it at 70mph (as that's the legal top speed, can you explain why you need a car to go faster than 70mph? ANSWER THE QUESTION NOW!) but they leave all the Halfords bits on it so that it looks like a fullfat Mercedes AMG, I should "just" either buy a fullerfat Mercedes AMG for more money or take it to a tuner who will upgrade it to what it should have been based on what it was sold as. After all it's just a car so do whatever you want with it.

[anonymous-user]

Lol, the world's weirdest analogy.

If they sold it with pro you would be asking why am I paying for that?

It's like this, the machine is £x with a particular operating system thrown in. If you want to upgrade then you can.

So, why do you want to be able to join a domain, run hyper-v or choose to turn off auto updates? Come on?

[Horace Van Khute]

the internet said:

Lol, the world's weirdest analogy.

If they sold it with pro you would be asking why am I paying for that?

Because it was always a machine aimed at pros?

Surface Book tech specs: ($1,499 to $3,299)
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Software

Windows 10 Pro


Surface Book 2 tech specs: ($1,149 to $3,299)
(...)
Software

Windows 10 Pro Creators Update 64-bit

Surface Book 3 tech specs: ($1,599 to $3,399)
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Software


Windows 10 Home

[anonymous-user]

Lol, so Windows 10 professional is for 'pros'?

Hahahaha

A pro can still install pro applications on Windows Home you know.

Having Windows pro didn't make it a pro machine.

[Horace Van Khute]

the internet said:

Lol, so Windows 10 professional is for 'pros'?

Hahahaha

A pro can still install pro applications on Windows Home you know.

Having Windows pro didn't make it a pro machine.

MS Surface Book material v1 said:

https://news.microsoft.com/download/presskits/surf...

Surface Book is a high-performance laptop with exceptional power and unprecedented versatility that flexes to meet the demands of your work — from the art studio to the board room.

(...)

Experience Windows 10. With full Windows 10 Pro, Surface Book is compatible with virtually all your favorite software, including apps, programs like Microsoft Office , and professional-grade software such as Citrix4 and Visual Studio4.

MS Surface Book material v2 said:

https://3er1viui9wo30pkxh1v2nh4w-wpengine.netdna-s...

It is a mobile workstation that runs all the professional-grade software people need for engineering, design and everything in between.

(...)

Engineered for Windows 10. With Windows 10 Pro, Surface Book is compatible with all your favorite Windows software, including Microsoft Office and professional-grade desktop software such as Siemens’ NX™ software

[anonymous-user]

I have no idea what you are trying to say there.
Hardware is what makes it a 'pro' machine not the difference between Home and Pro Windows.

You're on another level.

[Murph7355]

Amusing as it is to witness the bickering:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/compare-wi...

Or even:

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/feature/windows/wind...