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anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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It's been years since I last built a desktop and I'm thinking of building one now, with the aim of VR sim gaming.

Below are the parts I'm thinking of, would appreciate some critique.
I'm also looking for the nice cables I see in PC buiding videos were the power cables appear to be tied neatly together.
The parts are really stretching the budget so would be extra bonus if there are cheaper "bang for buck" alternatives smile

1) CPU : AMD 3950X
2) Mobo : Asus X570-Plus
3) CPU cooler : Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO
4) RAM : x2 G.SKILL F4-3200C16D-16GTZR Trident Z RGB Series 16 GB
5) GPU : ASUS GeForce RTX 2080 Super
6) SSD : x2 Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2
7) Data drive :Seagate BarraCuda Pro 8 TB
8) PSU :Corsair AX850
9) Case : Corsair Obsidian 500D

PC partpicker link : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4jFBCL

edit : no idea how to correct the typo in the subject...

Baldchap

9,629 posts

122 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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The boy and I built an almost identical PC at Christmas, albeit a 3900 because the 3950 wasn't launched when I did the shop and a ti GPU.

It runs everything on Ultra.

Got a Valve Index arriving this week so will let you know on HL Alyx. Tried the build with an Oculus Rift and it is fantastic.

It's brilliant.

People will tell you it's overkill, it probably is, but you could think of it as future proofing. If you can afford to do it you won't regret it.

Edit: This was it. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/24cfyk

Edited by Baldchap on Monday 27th July 00:12

Rojibo

1,747 posts

107 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Likely a new 3080 card coming out in September. Can you wait a couple of months?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Building is simple these days only things to look at are mounting the cpu/cooler might be different and the M.2 drives were a first for me on a desktop

3950 imo is overkill for anything other than heavy multi threaded work like video encoding, I'd save some money and go lower down if you are looking to save


cables and cable management depend on the case but most have easy access and routing etc now. A PSU with modular cables is a must for a decent build you use what you need and can swap with 3rd party ones if you are into that

anxious_ant

Original Poster:

2,626 posts

109 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Baldchap said:
The boy and I built an almost identical PC at Christmas, albeit a 3900 because the 3950 wasn't launched when I did the shop and a ti GPU.

It runs everything on Ultra.

Got a Valve Index arriving this week so will let you know on HL Alyx. Tried the build with an Oculus Rift and it is fantastic.

It's brilliant.

People will tell you it's overkill, it probably is, but you could think of it as future proofing. If you can afford to do it you won't regret it.

Edit: This was it. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/24cfyk

Edited by Baldchap on Monday 27th July 00:12
I would love a 2080ti but that definitely is out of budget at the moment.
I've clicked on your link and it brings me to my build page? Weird...

anxious_ant

Original Poster:

2,626 posts

109 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Rojibo said:
Likely a new 3080 card coming out in September. Can you wait a couple of months?
Yes, a few months is feasible. I still have by trusty 1080 to game with for now smile
I'll do some research on the 3080.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Nvidia are reportedly using a new power connector for the 30x0 cards, should be adapters and modular psu should cope but who knows.

anxious_ant

Original Poster:

2,626 posts

109 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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RobDickinson said:
Building is simple these days only things to look at are mounting the cpu/cooler might be different and the M.2 drives were a first for me on a desktop

3950 imo is overkill for anything other than heavy multi threaded work like video encoding, I'd save some money and go lower down if you are looking to save


cables and cable management depend on the case but most have easy access and routing etc now. A PSU with modular cables is a must for a decent build you use what you need and can swap with 3rd party ones if you are into that
Cheers. I just want to make it as future proof as possible. I'm thinking of playing the new MS flight sim in VR hence the beefy CPU.

I've seen loads of those very neat cable being used in PC build videos. They don't looks like modular cables that comes with PSUs. The cables are colour coded and all neatly stuck to each other. Unfortunately the videos doesn't mention the source.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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anxious_ant said:
Cheers. I just want to make it as future proof as possible. I'm thinking of playing the new MS flight sim in VR hence the beefy CPU.

I've seen loads of those very neat cable being used in PC build videos. They don't looks like modular cables that comes with PSUs. The cables are colour coded and all neatly stuck to each other. Unfortunately the videos doesn't mention the source.
The PSU will be modular so you can plug in any cables you want. it just has an array of sockets (and usually comes with its own cables)

then you can use those or buy in 3rd party ones like these

https://mod-one.com/custom-pc-cables/

https://cablemod.com/products/

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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anxious_ant said:
8) PSU :Corsair AX850
This is btw a modular psu

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/...

Rojibo

1,747 posts

107 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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anxious_ant said:
Rojibo said:
Likely a new 3080 card coming out in September. Can you wait a couple of months?
Yes, a few months is feasible. I still have by trusty 1080 to game with for now smile
I'll do some research on the 3080.
Likely the whole 3000 series will come out around the same time too, personally I wouldn't buy a 2xxx card now, as they'll either be reduced in price or hopefully big improvements in the next gen.

The 1080 is still a great card, in all honesty. I'm waiting for a 3080ti or equivalent to replace my long in the tooth Titan X Maxwell... (900 series). Still works well enough for the time being!

phil4

1,651 posts

268 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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You pay a lot more for stuff at the top end.... which sometimes makes sense - like the CPU or graphics cards, but much much less for things like storage.

Take your hard drive choice, that one 8Tb drive is listed at $800. You could be two 4Tb drives for about half that, and have the same 8Tb. And that there would be your biggest saving.

That aside, you're spending a lot on storage, that I'm really not sure you'd use with gaming. I'm not sure if you're trying to go for RAID with the two SSDs, but if not, perhaps get something smaller and cheaper for the OS, and then use the other larger one for frequently played games. I'm still not sure what you'd do with 8Tb either smile

FourWheelDrift

92,357 posts

314 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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RobDickinson said:
Nvidia are reportedly using a new power connector for the 30x0 cards, should be adapters and modular psu should cope but who knows.
https://youtu.be/AXEbCwGv00Q?t=292

anxious_ant

Original Poster:

2,626 posts

109 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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RobDickinson said:
The PSU will be modular so you can plug in any cables you want. it just has an array of sockets (and usually comes with its own cables)

then you can use those or buy in 3rd party ones like these

https://mod-one.com/custom-pc-cables/

https://cablemod.com/products/
Yes, those are the ones I'm thinking off, cheers!
It's been years since I've built a desktop but really loving the ideas of custom cables. It really makes the whole build much tidier without much effort.

anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Rojibo said:
Likely the whole 3000 series will come out around the same time too, personally I wouldn't buy a 2xxx card now, as they'll either be reduced in price or hopefully big improvements in the next gen.

The 1080 is still a great card, in all honesty. I'm waiting for a 3080ti or equivalent to replace my long in the tooth Titan X Maxwell... (900 series). Still works well enough for the time being!
Yeah, been monitoring the new GPUs and newer models seems to come out quicker these days.
I'm hunkering for some ray tracing (lol) and VR so leaning towards VR.
It's a big budget (to me) build so don't mind waiting. My current card is the GTX1080G not 1080Ti but it's still pretty good. Even with the new 3xxx series I don't reckon I can stretch to the Tis though.

When I build a PC I usually hang on to it for at least 5 years, after that I will pass it along to the kids with some upgrades,

anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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phil4 said:
You pay a lot more for stuff at the top end.... which sometimes makes sense - like the CPU or graphics cards, but much much less for things like storage.

Take your hard drive choice, that one 8Tb drive is listed at $800. You could be two 4Tb drives for about half that, and have the same 8Tb. And that there would be your biggest saving.

That aside, you're spending a lot on storage, that I'm really not sure you'd use with gaming. I'm not sure if you're trying to go for RAID with the two SSDs, but if not, perhaps get something smaller and cheaper for the OS, and then use the other larger one for frequently played games. I'm still not sure what you'd do with 8Tb either smile
To be honest I just wanted a fast spindle drive for data. I sometimes do some lightweight video editing etc and also have massive library of high fidelity songs.

Regarding the M.2 I'm just trying to fill both the slots lol. Perhaps I can reduce to just x1 1TB Sabrent. Would it be recommended to have the O/S and games on same drive?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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1tb m.2 is fine for now you can always add a 2tb+ later when they have fallen in cost

anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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RobDickinson said:
1tb m.2 is fine for now you can always add a 2tb+ later when they have fallen in cost
Thanks, perhaps I'll partition the drive for O/S and games.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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There's no advantage in partitioning

anxious_ant

Original Poster:

2,626 posts

109 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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What are everyones thoughts on water cooling? Looks pretty cool on videos but is it high maintenance without much benefits?
I'm thinking about those with custom blocks for CPU and GPU.

I'm considering an enclosed CPU water cooler (Corsair H150i) but that's about it.