MacOS Big Sur
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thebraketester

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15,820 posts

168 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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Has anyone updated yet? I saw a load of noise about it on twitter, people having issues with downloading it.

I think I am going to hold off for the first/second patch.

Rich

mmm-five

12,392 posts

314 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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Tried to download it yesterday evening and it was downloading at about 50kbps, so cancelled it.

Tried again this morning...downloaded in 6-7 minutes, and took about 30 minutes to install (on 2019 iMac).

Only putting it on my secondary iMac for now so I can see what it breaks before attempting to upgrade my main machine (with more apps on).

K12beano

20,854 posts

305 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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Had it for months - hadn't even realised we've moved past the betas into the GR versions!

Both on iMac (27" 2014) and MBP (13" 2017)

Runs like a dream - even on my 6 year old. Yes, all the updates have taken their time to install.

Lovely desktop experience. Control centre is handy - in fact I like this and widgets a lot. Feels "close" to iPad in experience.... in a good way... in everyday use


Hand off on AirPods Pros has been a laugh, because it sometimes thinks it's smarter than you when you try to put them in to take a 'phone call on the iPhone.

Not had any other significant glitches with any apps - bar Ulysses got a bit flakey, but they've just released an app update, so we'll see. I get the odd glitch switching apps on the older iMac, but I think it's just a bit tired. I cannot run an iPad as sidecar on it because of it's age which is slightly disappointing at times, but as it's 27" 5k that's just a minor grumble no real need! Camo has been a pain to set up at times (app to run your iPhone as your webcam in place of the potato camera for Zoom etc....)

Various reviewers were critical of stupid detail like the icons, but I don't notice anything about them any more - I think it's a lovely experience all round, and the transparent bar just makes it seem modern.

I've forgotten what's new in it now, because everything just seems so familiar - as pretty much always with OS updates!

Piginapoke

6,050 posts

215 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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I have it on an iMac and MacBook Pro. No change to how it all works, but it looks nicer and more modern.

stewies_minion

1,167 posts

217 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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On my 2016 MacBook 12" m3

If anything it's made it snappier. Gutted my 2013 iMac won't take it.

Davislove

2,295 posts

276 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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I've not updated yet but am sceptical because I dislike this move to make everything seem like a mobile device experience.

alorotom

12,788 posts

217 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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I upgraded yesterday morning. Took 33 mins from start to being up and running (late 2019 27” iMac)

It feels much more comfortable and intuitive than the previous OS version

Really like the upgraded features.

There is a good article on MacRumours about the top50 changes and uses

JonChalk

6,469 posts

140 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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I've been running the beta for weeks on a 2013 MBP - zero issues (only one with a very early seed of Safari ages ago & that got fixed quick).

As others have said - looks a bit nicer, some nice tweaks - no noticeable performance issues one way or another.

page3

5,202 posts

281 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Running on my 2013 iMac.

Far faster and less buggy than Catalina. Some of the new design choices are questionable, but that’s Apple for you and will no doubt be addressed in future updates.

Magnum 475

4,185 posts

162 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Downloaded & installed yesterday to a late 2013 MBP. No issues, running well, seems like an improvement so far. Whole process took about 40 minutes.

K12beano

20,854 posts

305 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Ah - if I can just add a post script to my thoughts above.

Unfortunately, I find that, from time-to-time I have to use some Microste rubbish..... namely "Word" and "Excel" (actually Excel is quite fun to play with some times, but don't tell anyone my secret).

In the latest betas, and the current release, I have noticed a significant reluctance to open Word and Excel documents from Finder. Used to be as snappy as any other file, but these days they are quite tardy - not sure if there is any other reason (I use Dropbox, iCloud and local storage and there's no obvious difference on location either), but it's become noticeable over the last few weeks/month or so....


thebraketester

Original Poster:

15,820 posts

168 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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OK... deep breath....

Mr Pointy

13,415 posts

189 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Oh look, Apple playing the sort of tricks everyone has castigated Microsoft & Google for doing:
https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-y...

page3

5,202 posts

281 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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If Apple was a British company.


mmm-five

12,392 posts

314 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Mr Pointy said:
Oh look, Apple playing the sort of tricks everyone has castigated Microsoft & Google for doing:
https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-y...
Which it has been doing for 2 previous OSes and no-one complained/noticed it until EVERYONE tried to re-authorise their apps at the same time when they rushed to install Big Sur.

If you don't want anyone knowing what you're doing on your computer, then simply disconnect it from the internet (even just during install if you want, so you won't get stuck when you first open your apps).

However, some apps now have cloud-based features which won't work if you block them/disconnect (like Adobe Creative Cloud AI-assisted filters).

The questions you've got to ask yourself are:
  1. Do you want a secure system, policed by Apple, to stop 'bad actors' compromising your machine/data?
  2. Did you not notice this was happening on previous versions of the OS (you know when that progress bar comes up saying 'verifying' when you're installing a new app), if not, why do you suddenly care now?
  3. Do you want apps to have unfettered access to all parts of your computer system?
  4. Do you trust Apple more than Google or Microsoft to do this?

thebraketester

Original Poster:

15,820 posts

168 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Generally it seems OK... some of the Icon and design choices are very very questionable.

thebraketester

Original Poster:

15,820 posts

168 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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anonymous said:
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Yes, but some of the icons do not carry over and the macos ones look crap in comparison to the ios ones


WyrleyD

2,348 posts

178 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Now got it on my MacBook Pro (Mid-2014) and the only problem I can see is that at the moment I can't activate "Change picture:" or "Random order:" in Desktop and Screen saver because they are greyed out. Googled the issue and can't see it reported anywhere else.

Anyone else seeing this issue?

JonChalk

6,469 posts

140 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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WyrleyD said:
Now got it on my MacBook Pro (Mid-2014) and the only problem I can see is that at the moment I can't activate "Change picture:" or "Random order:" in Desktop and Screen saver because they are greyed out. Googled the issue and can't see it reported anywhere else.

Anyone else seeing this issue?
Click off the Dynamic or Apple selections, into one of you own (picture) folders, at which point it stops being greyed out, then you can go back to the Apple ones if you want and it's not greyed out. At least for me, anyway.

WyrleyD

2,348 posts

178 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Thanks, I'll give it a go. I tied all the standard Big Sur ones but didn't go as far down as the others!!!