Fed up witth websites Cookies stuff
Fed up witth websites Cookies stuff
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robinessex

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12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I'm obviously not the only one getting this, but every new website I visit these days leads me to the Cookies stuff. A few have a simple yes/no know, but some go to extreme measures to make it almost impossible to say no. One site, in particular, resulted in 17 buttons to set. The result is I log out, and never visit again. I suppose I could clean out my cookies, but that will remove stuff I like and find useful. How do there here manage/handle this situation?

witteringon

1,925 posts

71 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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^ This.
Surely one for the "Things That Annoy You Beyond Reason...." thread

p4cks

7,522 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Google 'I don't care about cookies'

robinessex

Original Poster:

12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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witteringon said:
^ This.
Surely one for the "Things That Annoy You Beyond Reason...." thread
Maybe, but I thought this was a more specific problem that ain't going to go away.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

234 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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witteringon said:
^ This.
Surely one for the "Things That Annoy You Beyond Reason...." thread
No. It is extremely reasonable to be extremely annoyed by this bullst.

robinessex

Original Poster:

12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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At least it's deterred me from visiting the "Daily Wail" website. Doing some good there laugh

witteringon

1,925 posts

71 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Indeed - perhaps I didn't convey my annoyance at this practice in quite the way I intended! Why has it suddenly become so prevalent?

Smiljan

12,690 posts

227 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I block third party cookies in Google Chrome and then just ignore the cookie choice if I'm visiting a site just for info and not ordering products or creating an account etc..

If it's one of those sites that manipulates the choices in a way that makes it difficult to say no I just leave and don't go back. If it's a news type site that makes sure you can't really use the site without agreeing to the cookies, I leave and never go back.

Most people I'd imagine just agree to all which really makes the whole thing a pointless exercise.


robinessex

Original Poster:

12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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witteringon said:
Indeed - perhaps I didn't convey my annoyance at this practice in quite the way I intended! Why has it suddenly become so prevalent?
Because it's getting to epidemic proportions these days.

Bikerjon

2,211 posts

191 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I've noticed some incredibly complex cookie notices lately too. I work in IT and I barely understand them!

Browsing the web these days requires a slew of plugins/blockers just to keep this stuff under control. It's probably one of the reasons why many people prefer to use apps wherever they can.

130R

7,111 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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With uBlock Origin just subscribe to the EasyList Cookie filter

Mr-B

5,109 posts

224 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I find it annoying too. I don't know whether it is just me but when I have visited a site and go through the options and see a "reject all" button I press that and then save settings, why is it when I go back to that site a few days later I still get the pop up and have to go through the "reject all"/save process again?! fking infuriating!

markiii

4,323 posts

224 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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because by rejecting all its doesn't have any way of knowing its you when you go back there

Durzel

12,999 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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robinessex said:
I'm obviously not the only one getting this, but every new website I visit these days leads me to the Cookies stuff. A few have a simple yes/no know, but some go to extreme measures to make it almost impossible to say no. One site, in particular, resulted in 17 buttons to set. The result is I log out, and never visit again. I suppose I could clean out my cookies, but that will remove stuff I like and find useful. How do there here manage/handle this situation?
I think this is one of those classic "malicious compliance" things.

These websites are complying with the laws, but are doing so in such a way that they make it a miserable experience as the visitor to the website, so you'll be more inclined to just "Accept All".

I've seen some websites where you make your selections and then it goes off, with a progress bar no less, to "complete your changes". I never realised cookie preferences required some epic installation process, but apparently it does on some websites.

robinessex

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12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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It's all designed to frustrate your attempts to tell them to F***K off, hoping you'll give up. Some also object to my ad blocker, they can go get stuffed as well. I'm also getting Facebook emails telling me X number of people who want to add me as a friend, which is weird, as I don't have a Facebook account !! Invasion of privacy is beyond reasonable nowadays.

otherman

2,266 posts

195 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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p4cks said:
Google 'I don't care about cookies'
Simple, yes. But if you choose that option it defaults to 'accept all cookies'. And have you seen how much data that allows them to harvest?

Derek Smith

49,936 posts

278 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Durzel said:
I think this is one of those classic "malicious compliance" things.

These websites are complying with the laws, but are doing so in such a way that they make it a miserable experience as the visitor to the website, so you'll be more inclined to just "Accept All".

I've seen some websites where you make your selections and then it goes off, with a progress bar no less, to "complete your changes". I never realised cookie preferences required some epic installation process, but apparently it does on some websites.
Indeed. The law was introduced for the best of reasons; to regulate the cookies that could be placed on a browser’s computer without their knowledge. If you are happy with not knowing/caring what you are downloading, then just accept all, normally with one click.

I’ve limited the cookie level on Chrome, and so have more to do than just one click, but I’m happy to do so. I regularly ‘clean’ my desktop with my anti-virus. This changed my mind as a couple of times after running the programme, I noticed that the start-up time for Widows decreased, and this with me having an M.2 SSD as C-drive. If I know I might be visiting a site more than once during the day, I leave that page ‘live’.

I accept it is a bit of a pain. However, having random companies dump whatever they want onto your computer is not on, and worth a bit of pain to eliminate. For PH, I've got so used to the process that my pointer is spot on the button even before the pop-up appears.

eein

1,565 posts

295 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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The reason this happens a lot now is due to new regulations that came in a few years ago for the EU. All sites have to inform you if they use cookies and give the option to say now.

Unfortunately these regulations got a few things wrong:
- They failed to stipulate that the 'reject' option should be equally straightforward as the 'OK' option.
- There is no provision to allow browsers or OSes to offer a default setting.

The latter has been discussed as a possible change to this legislation following the near instant infinite annoying-ness it cause. But legislation takes a long, long time.

xeny

5,512 posts

108 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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robinessex said:
I I'm also getting Facebook emails telling me X number of people who want to add me as a friend, which is weird, as I don't have a Facebook account !! Invasion of privacy is beyond reasonable nowadays.
That may be some idiot having given your email address for their account somewhere. I've an idiot in the US who has signed my email address up for a home maintenance service. I'm struggling to resist cancelling the service and donating the balance of their payments to charity.

robinessex

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12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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xeny said:
robinessex said:
I I'm also getting Facebook emails telling me X number of people who want to add me as a friend, which is weird, as I don't have a Facebook account !! Invasion of privacy is beyond reasonable nowadays.
That may be some idiot having given your email address for their account somewhere. I've an idiot in the US who has signed my email address up for a home maintenance service. I'm struggling to resist cancelling the service and donating the balance of their payments to charity.
I suspect it's a deliberate ploy by Facebook, who have gleamed my email address from somewhere. Probably doing it to millions worldwide.