Preventing that encryption hack thing
Preventing that encryption hack thing
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rfisher

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5,064 posts

313 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Can't remember what it's called, but it's the hack where the bad people encrypt all your data and demand money to release it (Bitcoins usually).

I used to add a rule in gpedit.msc to stop executables from AppData, but I can't run gpedit.msc in Win10.

Has this security hole been plugged in Win10, or do I still need to change a group policy somewhere?

zippy3x

1,384 posts

297 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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IIRC no fully patched Windows 10 systems were affected by WannaCrypt.

It was all denizens of inefficiency like the NHS that were still running XP, oh and of course the "It's my computer, I'll decide when to update it" posse.

xeny

5,512 posts

108 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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rfisher said:
Can't remember what it's called, but it's the hack where the bad people encrypt all your data and demand money to release it (Bitcoins usually).

I used to add a rule in gpedit.msc to stop executables from AppData, but I can't run gpedit.msc in Win10.

Has this security hole been plugged in Win10, or do I still need to change a group policy somewhere?
it's still there in 10, but no gpedit in 10 Home AFAIK, you need IIRC Pro or better.

mmm-five

12,389 posts

314 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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There's an option in Windows Security to protect against ransomware attacks (something to do with controlled folder access and OneDrive backups I think).

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/protec...

otolith

69,339 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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mmm-five said:
There's an option in Windows Security to protect against ransomware attacks (something to do with controlled folder access and OneDrive backups I think).

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/protec...
Yes.

It is quite annoying, but given how intrusive it seems to be I assume it works well.

stamper

45 posts

75 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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It's Ransomware.

I would:

Keep your Windows version up to date and security patched.

Watch what you download and execute (although anyone can get fooled at some point).

Use some of the Windows security settings suggested (although some of the settings are too onerous).

Run regular security scans with some decent security software.

And most importantly, take backups of your data. The frequency depending on how important your data is to you. I do it once a week, with the oldest available being 6 months (and one bare system restore version). Most backup software, including the free stuff, is very good now.

Turn7

25,752 posts

251 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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stamper said:
It's Ransomware.



Run regular security scans with some decent security software.

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whats considered good these days ?

Windows defender or something was the last one I heard....

pokegone

29 posts

120 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Windows native protection isn’t great to be honest. If it were me I’d be looking at buying a dedicated 3rd party solution to protect my PC, and many allow use of it across additional devices, so mobile and tablet. Have a look at Trend Micro and the like, but be sure it’s offering anti-ransomware.

mmm-five

12,389 posts

314 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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pokegone said:
Windows native protection isn’t great to be honest. If it were me I’d be looking at buying a dedicated 3rd party solution to protect my PC, and many allow use of it across additional devices, so mobile and tablet. Have a look at Trend Micro and the like, but be sure it’s offering anti-ransomware.
You may find the built-in protection is much better than it used to be.

Of course, it doesn't include the 'value added' offerings some of the others provide like email phishing protection, non-Microsoft browser protections, VPN, password wallets, credit file checking, etc. but it's free and doesn't induce any extra overheads/incompatibilities that some do.

https://uk.pcmag.com/antivirus/25697/microsoft-win...

deckster

9,631 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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mmm-five said:
pokegone said:
Windows native protection isn’t great to be honest. If it were me I’d be looking at buying a dedicated 3rd party solution to protect my PC, and many allow use of it across additional devices, so mobile and tablet. Have a look at Trend Micro and the like, but be sure it’s offering anti-ransomware.
You may find the built-in protection is much better than it used to be.

Of course, it doesn't include the 'value added' offerings some of the others provide like email phishing protection, non-Microsoft browser protections, VPN, password wallets, credit file checking, etc. but it's free and doesn't induce any extra overheads/incompatibilities that some do.

https://uk.pcmag.com/antivirus/25697/microsoft-win...
Agreed. 7 Windows machines here, always fully patched, only ever use Windows Defender and the last virus I caught was the Jerusalem virus off a hooky copy of DR-DOS in 1992. Modern Windows versions really are very secure out-of-the-box.

rfisher

Original Poster:

5,064 posts

313 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
Yup - I now have gpedit.msc and have added the new path policy.

Didn't realise that Home was a bit carp and still had this security hole.

Help appreciated beer

xeny

5,512 posts

108 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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mmm-five said:
There's an option in Windows Security to protect against ransomware attacks (something to do with controlled folder access and OneDrive backups I think).

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/protec...
That seems to be the equivalent of using app locker via gpedit as the OP described. Nice, I'd forgotten that had existed.

stamper

45 posts

75 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Turn7 said:
whats considered good these days ?

Windows defender or something was the last one I heard....
Like others have written, the built in Microsoft program is considered pretty good now. Hence other paid for security software has had to add lots of other features in order to justify the price.

Personally, I don't think the extra features are worth it, so I stick with the Microsoft security scan (which runs automatically behind the scenes) and then use the free version of Malwarebytes and run its scan once per week.

wombleh

2,390 posts

152 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Not sure what you used before but AppLocker could limit where programs and scripts can run, think it’s in all versions of Windows 10.

Great tool but might be tricky for home users, bit easier with standard corporate machines. You could just permit executables and scripts to run from “c:\Program Files” and “c:\windows” as a basic policy, but that may cause issues for browser plugins and similar.