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Cupramax

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11,007 posts

282 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Am I the only one that’s noticing a pattern recently, whenever a new IPadOS is released, even a minor point one, that everything, apps, browsers randomly crash and restart, this never happens at any other time than when a bug update has been rolled out.

mmm-five

12,388 posts

314 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Nothing gone 'wrong' on my iPads, iPhones, iMacs or Mac Minis that were updated yesterday.

hyphen

26,262 posts

120 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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My 2015 mbp after the new OS upgrade started playing up, would regularly freeze/not startup requiring a hard reset. Thankfully my son chucked a toy at the screen and smashed it, so I was able to upgrade.

AJB88

15,905 posts

201 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Quite common with all OS updates. Android for example, Google will make sure all the core Google apps work with the new OS version before its pushed out. But third party apps probably wont work correctly.

Barclays are a bugger at taking forever to get their app working with new OS versions of Android.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

192 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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We’ve had iPhones for twelve years and iPads for about eleven years. No issues like in the OP at all. If there have been any issues at all, delete the app/s the reinstall.

sutoka

4,727 posts

138 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Never had any issue and I've used Macs at home and work for over 15 years. Must have had at least 20 Apple products and no issues

Corso Marche

1,901 posts

231 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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AJB88 said:
Quite common with all OS updates. Android for example, Google will make sure all the core Google apps work with the new OS version before its pushed out. But third party apps probably wont work correctly.

Barclays are a bugger at taking forever to get their app working with new OS versions of Android.
That's a bit strong in my opinion. Been using android for 10+years, and I've not had app issues following OS updates in at least 5-6 years on android. In fact I've only had one major issue with an app in the last 5-6 years when the app developers pushed a fault out with an update.
If developers can't resolve any issue which may have crept in with code changes and app updates I just remove the app and stop using it. I wouldn't waste time on something which is buggy. But thankfully I've not had to do that in a long, long time.
I will concede that I've primarily used Nexus and Pixel devices since 2011 though, so perhaps the OS codebase is more stable than tweaked versions of the OS from other various OEM's.

AJB88

15,905 posts

201 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Corso Marche said:
That's a bit strong in my opinion. Been using android for 10+years, and I've not had app issues following OS updates in at least 5-6 years on android. In fact I've only had one major issue with an app in the last 5-6 years when the app developers pushed a fault out with an update.
If developers can't resolve any issue which may have crept in with code changes and app updates I just remove the app and stop using it. I wouldn't waste time on something which is buggy. But thankfully I've not had to do that in a long, long time.
I will concede that I've primarily used Nexus and Pixel devices since 2011 though, so perhaps the OS codebase is more stable than tweaked versions of the OS from other various OEM's.
I've been Nexus/Pixel as well since Nexus 5. Barclays are the one for me, guarantee when Android 12 comes out in a few months their app will stop working.

I don't have many 3rd party apps these days so dont suffer many issues.

Corso Marche

1,901 posts

231 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Never dealt with Barclays, but often see complaints about their app on here.
Is their service app-only when on mobile, or can it also be accessed in a web browser on a phone or tablet?
I think most banks these days push to app only when on mobile, for extra verification, 2FA options for periodic checks etc

AJB88

15,905 posts

201 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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App only I thing, they were one of the first to not allow rooted phones etc as well along with Sky Go. Had to stop using custom roms on my Samsung devices hence why I went down the HTC One M8 Google Play edition route then the Nexus/Pixel route.

K12beano

20,854 posts

305 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Corso Marche said:
Never dealt with Barclays, but often see complaints about their app on here.
Is their service app-only when on mobile, or can it also be accessed in a web browser on a phone or tablet?
I think most banks these days push to app only when on mobile, for extra verification, 2FA options for periodic checks etc
Not had issues myself, but Mrs Beano used to be regularly "disappointed" with trying to get access to her Barclays account.

Generally though, these sort of providers seem to have their act together nowadays.

And - if they don't - the customer always has a choice.

Generally, my philosophy is that Apple offer everyone the latest OS experience with the most up-to-date level of security and barring the odd temporary glitch the prevention-is-better-than-cure model of having the latest wherever a device allows it has to be the best compromise.

Sheepshanks

41,217 posts

149 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Cupramax said:
Am I the only one that’s noticing a pattern recently, whenever a new IPadOS is released, even a minor point one, that everything, apps, browsers randomly crash and restart, this never happens at any other time than when a bug update has been rolled out.
How old are the device(s) you're updating? We've three iPads, I suppose oldest maybe 4yrs old, all used extensively and (touch wood) haven't seen any issues.

I use the Brave Browser for PH on one of them, and that usually crashes on open, but it's always done that.

Cupramax

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11,007 posts

282 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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It’s an IPad Pro 10.5 first gen, 2017 model so not exactly low spec or archaic.

Sheepshanks

41,217 posts

149 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Cupramax said:
It’s an IPad Pro 10.5 first gen, 2017 model so not exactly low spec or archaic.
Ah, we don't have any Pro's.

You must have bought it right towards the end of it's run though, it came out in 2015. All iPad Pros are still supported by the latest OS (14) though.

Cupramax

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11,007 posts

282 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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It was a new model when I bought it...

https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/ipad-pro-105

Pixelpeep Z4

9,050 posts

172 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Sounds like you've just had bad luck.

Between me and my other half, we have

2008 Macbook pro
2014 iPad air 2
2017 Apple watch Series 3
2018 iPhone XS max
2019 iPhone 11 Pro max
2020 27" iMac

all run flawlessly and have regular software updates (just security patches for the MBP)

I am quite OCD when it comes to looking after tech though, so they get treated with kid gloves, no one watches porn or installs dodgy jailbreaks etc so i dunno, maybe we are just lucky ?

Sheepshanks

41,217 posts

149 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Cupramax said:
It was a new model when I bought it...

https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/ipad-pro-105
I thenk that's a Gen2 then, although oddly Apple seems not to have given the 10.5" model a generation number.

The Gen 1 Pro's came out a couple of years prior.

AJB88

15,905 posts

201 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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K12beano said:
Not had issues myself, but Mrs Beano used to be regularly "disappointed" with trying to get access to her Barclays account.

Generally though, these sort of providers seem to have their act together nowadays.

And - if they don't - the customer always has a choice.

Generally, my philosophy is that Apple offer everyone the latest OS experience with the most up-to-date level of security and barring the odd temporary glitch the prevention-is-better-than-cure model of having the latest wherever a device allows it has to be the best compromise.
Another annoyance is Barclays seem to be one of the only UK banks not to use Google Pay.

QuartzDad

2,995 posts

152 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I use a iPad Air 2 for surfing on the sofa, Safari and Firefox will crash and reload on lots of different websites, the Reddit app will always crash after 5 minutes use or so.

geeks

11,761 posts

169 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Cupramax said:
It’s an IPad Pro 10.5 first gen, 2017 model so not exactly low spec or archaic.
Mine's fine :shrug: