Wireless charging pads?
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Slow

Original Poster:

6,973 posts

167 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Is there a reason wireless charging pads are all roughly the same size?

I want a jumbo xl size thing to cover more space so the phone can be thrown roughly onto the table and get a charge. Otherwise it looks more like you have to make sure you place it in the right spot.


cobra kid

5,595 posts

270 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Yes, it's definitely a difficult task.

alorotom

12,788 posts

217 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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It’s the size of the coil. Most only have one coil and the pad is dictatated by this size

You can get some larger pads with multiple coils but they’re mega expensive in comparison and generate vast volumes of heat. I use a cheap pad from Rymans that was £3, the last I looked at a larger pad similar to what you want it was over £250

As an example Apple was developing exactly what you wanted (AirPower IIRC) but it was canned due to dangerous heat levels

If you have an MagSafe iPhone though young wouldn’t need a big pad as the coil “snaps” onto the phone

paulrockliffe

16,600 posts

257 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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I saw a pad that was like a 12" square, when you put your phone on it the coil basically moved to find your phone. It looked decent, but it wasn't really refined enough. Eg if you put two phones on it it'll charge one of them only, rather than getting around to both one way or another.

Jamescrs

6,459 posts

95 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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I have a Samsung pad on my bedside table which is big enough for three devices (watch, phone and airpods in theory) but even so I find if I don't place the phone correctly it won't charge and it cost around £80 if I recall correctly.

I have never noticed it get hot

alorotom

12,788 posts

217 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Jamescrs said:
I have a Samsung pad on my bedside table which is big enough for three devices (watch, phone and airpods in theory) but even so I find if I don't place the phone correctly it won't charge and it cost around £80 if I recall correctly.

I have never noticed it get hot
it won't get particularly hot as there are only 3 coils in this example - what the OP wants is a layered coil approach where there are somewhere upwards of 30 overlapping coils and this is where extreme heat is generated.

bad company

21,919 posts

296 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Bump.

My charging pad is only charging my iPhone 12 mini to 75% overnight. Does anyone know if that’s likely to be an issue with the pad, the lead, plug or the iPhone itself?

mikef

6,158 posts

281 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Take a look in Settings under Battery Health and see if optimised charging is set to on. If it is, your iPhone only charges to the level it thinks it needs

bad company

21,919 posts

296 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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mikef said:
Take a look in Settings under Battery Health and see if optimised charging is set to on. If it is, your iPhone only charges to the level it thinks it needs
Yes, that was on. Thank you for the help.

Worryingly my battery capacity is only 92% which doesn’t sound great for less than a year old.

colin79666

2,224 posts

143 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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bad company said:
Yes, that was on. Thank you for the help.

Worryingly my battery capacity is only 92% which doesn’t sound great for less than a year old.
Same with my SE2020. I don’t think keeping it on the charging pad all day when working from home has done it any favours.

Blown2CV

31,660 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th September 2021
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my experience of wireless charging is that it is ste. It's slow, wastes a lot of energy in heat, is very sensitive to things like cases and phone position, and the equipment seems to wear out. You can't even use your phone whilst it's charging. Superfast charging is now available anyway and I can get 50% charge in 30 mins on a cable.

Dracoro

9,033 posts

275 months

Sunday 12th September 2021
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Blown2CV said:
You can't even use your phone whilst it's charging.
Yes, you can. I’m typing this on a phone that is wirelessly charging.

Blown2CV

31,660 posts

233 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Dracoro said:
Blown2CV said:
You can't even use your phone whilst it's charging.
Yes, you can. I’m typing this on a phone that is wirelessly charging.
So did you pull the charger towards you so it is under your head, and flat on the desk.... or have you got one that magnetically sticks to the wall in front of you. Either way it's an awkward solution to a problem only created by not having a long flexy wire. Isn't it.

Dracoro

9,033 posts

275 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Blown2CV said:
Dracoro said:
Blown2CV said:
You can't even use your phone whilst it's charging.
Yes, you can. I’m typing this on a phone that is wirelessly charging.
So did you pull the charger towards you so it is under your head, and flat on the desk.... or have you got one that magnetically sticks to the wall in front of you. Either way it's an awkward solution to a problem only created by not having a long flexy wire. Isn't it.
You said it can't be used when charging, it's sat on charger you can operate phone.

Now, whether the charging pad is where you want it is a different issue.

I have one that is flat, you can operate phone.
I have one that is upright, you can operate phone.
I also, for added bonus, have magsafe one that stays with phone whilst you move it around - so quite like a wired cable......
I aslo, for added bonus 2, have normal cable so can plug in.

There are pros and cons of all options. Either way, the phone still operates when charging (whichever method) and your post could imply to some readers that the phone is inoperable whilst wirelessly charging....

Blown2CV

31,660 posts

233 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Dracoro said:
Blown2CV said:
Dracoro said:
Blown2CV said:
You can't even use your phone whilst it's charging.
Yes, you can. I’m typing this on a phone that is wirelessly charging.
So did you pull the charger towards you so it is under your head, and flat on the desk.... or have you got one that magnetically sticks to the wall in front of you. Either way it's an awkward solution to a problem only created by not having a long flexy wire. Isn't it.
You said it can't be used when charging, it's sat on charger you can operate phone.

Now, whether the charging pad is where you want it is a different issue.

I have one that is flat, you can operate phone.
I have one that is upright, you can operate phone.
I also, for added bonus, have magsafe one that stays with phone whilst you move it around - so quite like a wired cable......
I aslo, for added bonus 2, have normal cable so can plug in.

There are pros and cons of all options. Either way, the phone still operates when charging (whichever method) and your post could imply to some readers that the phone is inoperable whilst wirelessly charging....
i am not saying it is totally inoperable - just that the point of wireless pads is that they require the phone to be sitting on it, and unless you have a wireless pad in your hand, it is always going to be somewhere less optimal to use... therefore often you lift the phone up, taking it off charge. It's more a point of practicality - it doesn't render the phone totally unusable - i would have thought that was obviously not what i was saying. The fact that you have had to buy 3 different ones for different scenarios and still you need a wire... kind of proves my point of practicality a bit doesn't it?

SpeckledJim

34,280 posts

283 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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I listen to podcasts all night using wired headphones and I was finding that I was pulling the phone off the pad in the middle of the night (what with all the shagging, you know how it is)

So I built this to locate it properly.




anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Seems an awful lot of effort compared to just plugging a cable in? But then I am old school and still use a wired mouse.

Personally I just want things to work, and the simpler they are, the more likely they are not to have any problems.

Slow

Original Poster:

6,973 posts

167 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Wired headphones are using up the charger port for his use.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Slow said:
Wired headphones are using up the charger port for his use.
Oh yes, forgot about Apple insisting on using one port for charging and for headphones.

cobra kid

5,595 posts

270 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Joey Deacon said:
Oh yes, forgot about Apple insisting on using one port for charging and for headphones.
And my Huawei as well.