Windows 10 onto Samsung SSD

[Oilchange]

I thought I'd buy a new SSD (Samsung 870 QVO 1TB) and a new copy of Windows 10 home on a stick as my HD is leggy and takes ages for anything. Almost £200

Anyway, the install. Something I though would be straight forward turned out I needed to do some coding at the install page. It took several aborted installs to get this far and much hair pulling but anyway...

I get to the install page and I start typing:
diskpart, list disk, select disk 0, clean, create part pri, select part 1 and format fs=ntfs quick, select disk 0, detail disk, select volume 1, delete volume, convert gpt
I needed a gpt bit on the disk to make the install work, now it's there, great!

I then go on to start the install and it gets going to the point where it needs to restart several times and it says it will take a little while. Fine, sit back.

It goes to restart and starts loading all the files again ala a fresh install? WTF? I go around in circles 3 or 4 times now and am stuck.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

[sunbeam alpine]

If you're installing from a USB stick, you need to take it out and restart the computer. Then the installation will go on as the installation files will be on the hard drive.

[Oilchange]

Yes, tried this, won't recognise the hard drive. I should have mentioned this, sorry.
I can't explain why it won't see the SSD boot partition thing.

[sunbeam alpine]

1. Does the BIOS recognise the disk?

2. If I understand correctly, you had to manually create partitions? I've never had to do that with a W10 install, normally it does everything itself. I would guess that there's something wrong with the MBR on the hard drive, but that's about where my knowledge stops.

[technobob]

have a look at this utube vid. It may help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No-ct8pQcIg

[NGRhodes]

The Windows installer should take care of partitioning for you, during initial setup (before the first reboot), there is screen where you select the drive you want to install Windows to, if you remove all the partitions from your SSD, you can select the (unpartitioned) SSD and then the installer will automatically create partitions for you, no need to mess about manually creating them.

[Oilchange]

I got to the stage where Windows starts to install, got to preparing Windows etc and said it would need to restart etc, that's where it all went wrong, it simply restarted the whole 'loading files' malarky like the BIOS didn't see the disk but when I go into the BIOS its there in plain sight.
I will watch that vid, thankyou


eta, ok that's new stuff to be getting on with I shall crack on thankyou

Edited by Oilchange on Saturday 24th July 21:48

[Oilchange]

No joy.
After installing twice, getting to restarting and into the bios, reactivating the items the vid says I go to f10 and exit only for it to say
Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media blah.
Basically the bios doesnt see the ssd after installing windows.

[Oakey]

" get to the install page and I start typing:
diskpart, list disk, select disk 0, clean, create part pri, select part 1 and format fs=ntfs quick, select disk 0, detail disk, select volume 1, delete volume, convert gpt"

Never in the history of installing Windows 7 to 10 have I ever had to do this.

You select the drive when the installer prompts you and it creates all the boot partitions in addition to your Windows partition. Do you have those?

[Oilchange]

Oakey said:

" get to the install page and I start typing:
diskpart, list disk, select disk 0, clean, create part pri, select part 1 and format fs=ntfs quick, select disk 0, detail disk, select volume 1, delete volume, convert gpt"

Never in the history of installing Windows 7 to 10 have I ever had to do this.

You select the drive when the installer prompts you and it creates all the boot partitions in addition to your Windows partition. Do you have those?

Me neither, I can't explain it. I bought a new SSD and a new copy of windows and it's been a mind**** ever since. Unplugged all except the SSD, stuck the USB stick in and off I went but...

When I tried installing the first time it didn't see the SSD at all at the install stage although it was there in the Bios. Then it all went downhill. Even doing all that stuff in the vid last night (twice) hasn't fixed it.
Basically when it tries to reboot having installed, arranged and updated all the files on the SSD it comes up with the two sentences that haven't got a bootable thing and to restart with one. If I leave the stick in at reboot it reloads all the files and starts the install again.
Driving me nuts!

[51mes]

I've only had to do that manual configuration where dual boot was needed before (and not for years) usually custom install allows you to partition up the disks,

how is the SSD attached to the computer, SATA to the motherboard, M.2 slot or via a SATA plug in card. ?

Have you set the SATA device mode to AHCI, not RAID?

Have you enabled secure boot, have you installed the Secure boot keys?

have you checked all connections are secure/sata power and data? tried a different SATA cable ?

you can always download samsung magician and transfer your existing boot disk onto the SSD as an experiment?

Built my first new machine for a few years this weekend - it just went in sweet as a nut once I'd realised the M.2 NVME drive was there but not showing up in the M.2 slot info on the BIOS (but instead under a separate NVME entry).. My existing copy of windows 10 from my old machine reactivated with a minimum of fuss. The most painful activity was catching up with updates from the 18 month old Media I have (should have downloaded a fresh copy).

[Oilchange]

51mes said:

I've only had to do that manual configuration where dual boot was needed before (and not for years) usually custom install allows you to partition up the disks,

how is the SSD attached to the computer, SATA to the motherboard, M.2 slot or via a SATA plug in card. ?
SATA

Have you set the SATA device mode to AHCI, not RAID?
Think so, looked at it before and it aint RAId

Have you enabled secure boot, have you installed the Secure boot keys?
I went through all the stuff on that vid which included disabling then re enabling them

have you checked all connections are secure/sata power and data? tried a different SATA cable ?
I just re formatted it to wipe the last two attempted installs and can see it in Windows (8 booted from my hdd)


you can always download samsung magician and transfer your existing boot disk onto the SSD as an experiment?
Haven’t tried that but might give it a go

[Semmelweiss]

Disable secure boot in the UEFI, and try again?

[Oilchange]

Ok, all settings restored after initial install onto ssd, it sees it in bios but

Reboot and Select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key…

Back to square one.

Edited by Oilchange on Sunday 25th July 19:43

[NGRhodes]

Is your BIOS set to UEFI boot (try legacy and UEFI boot options)?
Do you have any other drives (if so, try unplugging these during install) ?
Try plugging the SSD into a different SATA port on the motherboard.

Contact Samsung for Support.

Edited by NGRhodes on Sunday 25th July 23:31

[Oilchange]

Tried all those, I suspect there's a problem with my motherboard. It really shouldn't be this difficult. One moment the bios sees the SSD the next it doesn't ie when it wants to reboot with the SSD for the install. Why I can't explain.

[adaptive]

try replacing the cmos battery or flashing the bios?

[peterperkins]

Are there any bios updates on the MB website?

[sgrimshaw]

Try another approach.

Put HDD back in, put new SSD in a caddy or use USB/SATA cable and plug that into USB.

Use Macrium Reflect Free to clone HDD to SSD.

Once cloned, pull HDD and replace with SSD.

It should just work.

If it does, and you still feel the need to do a full reinstall of Windows you can then do it from within a bootable environment.

Would check if there was a BIOS upgrade before starting the clone, install it before cloning if there is.

[Oilchange]

Thanks for the tips, i will get on it soon as i can