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sutoka

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4,727 posts

138 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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My 4 year old iPhone X battery seems to drain during the day so when it indicate it had dropped below 80% and showed up 'Service' I thought I'd get a few more months out of it and put a new battery in it. Other than the battery it was working perfectly. Left it in Monday morning and continued to use an ancient SE that morning, this is a shop that's well reviewed and they told me it would be done in an hour. I'd backed up and wiped it for security reasons.

I popped in later that afternoon checked it switch on and headed home. Cost me £50 and the receipt said 'premium' battery so expected a decent non Apple battery at least. Used it yesterday and it drained like before and still coming up service.

Have I been sold a pup or do I need to reset something? . I've emailed them and waiting for a reply. I don't particularly want them monkeying around with it again, paid with my card so no issues getting the money back if they play silly beggars.



Edited by sutoka on Wednesday 29th September 19:18

CharlesElliott

2,266 posts

312 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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It might take a couple of charges to sort itself out.

What does battery health say now?

What does the Battery app tell you about what is draining the battery?

sutoka

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4,727 posts

138 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Showing service but the battery health is blank, it isn’t showing any percentage at all, phone seems to slow down with some apps not opening , most used is safari on 21%. I updated to iOS 15 but nobody use seems to be having these issues






CharlesElliott

2,266 posts

312 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Well, you should turn on Auto-Brightness!

Below the pics you show, the app will tell you what apps are using the battery. The graph doesn't look that much of an issue.

On battery health, I would try charging / discharging it a few times to see if that sorts itself out.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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I got mine changed for €60 in Vienna Apple store. Didn’t seem worth going to a corner shop for that price.

sutoka

Original Poster:

4,727 posts

138 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Heres the reply I got


insert coin

1,965 posts

73 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Only Apple or their approved agents can replace a battery without getting the ‘service’ message.

It doesn’t mean the new battery is crap, but the vast majority of EBay/Amazon batteries are absolute garbage, bordering on dangerous.

I’d say your guy is probably using decent replacement batteries, something like the IFixIt range and he’s given you a decent response.

Personally I’d only take mine back to Apple now, certainly since the 7 came along with IP 67 and the battery service messages.

Before the 7 I was changing all my friends and families iPhone batteries.

insert coin

1,965 posts

73 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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This was a good watch - https://youtu.be/g41ivRm1ABk

NDA

25,697 posts

255 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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I am not sure when Apple started coding all hardware in the iPhone, it may have started with the X. Certainly with 11, 12 and particularly the 13, you can't change anything (screen, battery, lenses, logic board) without virtually bricking the phone. Even with genuine Apple parts. Face ID won't work, portrait mode won't work etc etc. Apple want the income from repairs.

Unless the 'Right to Repair' lobby gains traction, it will put the 3rd party repair businesses out of action.

sutoka

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4,727 posts

138 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Spent the last few days speaking to Apple as the one has had no end of problems since I received it back from getting the battery changed third party.

The speakers hasn't worked, no volume on YouTube or on calls, the touch freezes and it needs a forced reset every hour. I rely on my phone for work and have been using a old 5c for the last week.

I have wiped and reintalled backup from iCloud three times and still the issue remains. Seems this £50 battery change is going to cost me nearly £500 to replace with an iPhone of the same spec, storage and condition.

robsa

2,466 posts

214 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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I would never get the battery changed anywhere other than Apple. For future reference, it's only £69 for you to get an iPhone battery replaced there (£49 for older models). Of course now it's been diddled with by a non-authorised repairer you may be screwed frown

Sheepshanks

41,182 posts

149 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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robsa said:
I would never get the battery changed anywhere other than Apple. For future reference, it's only £69 for you to get an iPhone battery replaced there (£49 for older models). Of course now it's been diddled with by a non-authorised repairer you may be screwed frown
My only experience of having them repair something was the screen on wife's iPhone8. Sent the phone on Monday and had it back on Thursday. The amount they charged was slightly higher than stated on the website as they charged VAT at 21% based on The Netherlands. I queried this and they refunded the whole lot. So I can't complain about that!

Ham_and_Jam

3,720 posts

127 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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insert coin said:
Only Apple or their approved agents can replace a battery without getting the ‘service’ message.

It doesn’t mean the new battery is crap, but the vast majority of EBay/Amazon batteries are absolute garbage, bordering on dangerous.

I’d say your guy is probably using decent replacement batteries, something like the IFixIt range and he’s given you a decent response.

Personally I’d only take mine back to Apple now, certainly since the 7 came along with IP 67 and the battery service messages.

Before the 7 I was changing all my friends and families iPhone batteries.
I had my iPhone X battery repaired at one of the many repair shops you see on shopping malls. They screwed it up like the OPs. Battery not charging properly, screen not right and lots of OS faults.

Took it to another one that I had used previous not hoping for much, the guy basically ripped into the other repairer saying not many people know how to do a battery swap properly on the newer models. I took it with a pinch of salt, but gave him a chance because it was basically a brick.

He replaced the battery and screen for £100 and got it working back to normal. The battery app is even showing 100%. I was very impressed with his effort and told him so, he looked very smug!

If I was the OP I would take it somewhere else and ask if it can be fixed. Someone with more experience could probably get it working.

sutoka

Original Poster:

4,727 posts

138 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Ham_and_Jam said:
insert coin said:
Only Apple or their approved agents can replace a battery without getting the ‘service’ message.

It doesn’t mean the new battery is crap, but the vast majority of EBay/Amazon batteries are absolute garbage, bordering on dangerous.

I’d say your guy is probably using decent replacement batteries, something like the IFixIt range and he’s given you a decent response.

Personally I’d only take mine back to Apple now, certainly since the 7 came along with IP 67 and the battery service messages.

Before the 7 I was changing all my friends and families iPhone batteries.
I had my iPhone X battery repaired at one of the many repair shops you see on shopping malls. They screwed it up like the OPs. Battery not charging properly, screen not right and lots of OS faults.

Took it to another one that I had used previous not hoping for much, the guy basically ripped into the other repairer saying not many people know how to do a battery swap properly on the newer models. I took it with a pinch of salt, but gave him a chance because it was basically a brick.

He replaced the battery and screen for £100 and got it working back to normal. The battery app is even showing 100%. I was very impressed with his effort and told him so, he looked very smug!

If I was the OP I would take it somewhere else and ask if it can be fixed. Someone with more experience could probably get it working.
This isn't some bloke down a back alley doing repairs they have two high street shops and hundreds of positive reviews and a few negatives. My phone was working perfectly when I left it in, . I even showed the guy beforehand. Then an hour later I got it back and it's freezing constantly, needs force reset to get it going, speakers and sound don't work on videos or on calls, not even on loudspeaker.

This is the reply I got from them, they want me to leave it back into them, not sure if I should they could say anything and then try and charge me more for changing speaks, haptic sensor etc and then hold my phone ransom if I refuse to pay.

Looking for a bit of advice to be honest. I paid by card and got a receipt, this is the reply I got.



Edited by sutoka on Tuesday 5th October 03:33

sutoka

Original Poster:

4,727 posts

138 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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They want me to leave it back to them so they can look into it, bit reluctant as they've already mad it a useless brick.

hman

7,497 posts

224 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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) Once phone is bricked taking phone to non apple cannot make things worse

Take phone back to non apple dealer and see if he can fix, get refund if unable to fix.

Then take phone to apple and see if they can fix it.

Then always take phoen to apple in future because obviously the risk isnt worth the reward


eeLee

1,009 posts

110 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Another X owned here who got what I consider a perfect battery change from Apple for peanuts as per other posters. It comes with a 3 month warranty and was done perfectly. The thing is running iOS15.1 beta 3 and works perfectly, albeit in some processes (not many) it is slow.

That has given the perfect form phone a new lease of life smile I would not do it any other way because Apple pricing on this is actually pretty decent.

NDA

25,697 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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eeLee said:
I would not do it any other way because Apple pricing on this is actually pretty decent.
.... at the moment....!


I like Apple stuff and have had their phones since the first model. But I really do not like their strategy to put independent repair companies out of business. Not so long ago you could have your phone perfectly repaired by an independent - but now, it's impossible.

The current Apple repair pricing is manageable, but ultimately Apple will be offering replacements not repairs.

sutoka

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4,727 posts

138 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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eeLee said:
Another X owned here who got what I consider a perfect battery change from Apple for peanuts as per other posters. It comes with a 3 month warranty and was done perfectly. The thing is running iOS15.1 beta 3 and works perfectly, albeit in some processes (not many) it is slow.

That has given the perfect form phone a new lease of life smile I would not do it any other way because Apple pricing on this is actually pretty decent.
Price was never really an issue for a battery swap, Apple have a 6-8 day turnaround time, this place was 1 hour from drop off to collection.

Relative upgraded so managed to get an 11 Pro with 89% battery for family rates, I've had the owner back and the tone has changed, seems they will fix it at no cost.

I mean the phone even with a new battery is worth very little spares or repair on eBay, taking it back and giving them a chance to put it right is ok, if they find they can't fix it then we will deal with that if it comes to that. My X was was mint, no marks and with the increased storage worth somewhere around the £350 mark.

here's the reply.


CoolHands

23,566 posts

225 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Hey what happened could they sort it?