Knowing Mum is ok
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This maybe a strange question but I am sure it has been asked before.
Mum has just had a stroke but wants to go back to being at home and independent, is there a motion detector or system that would alert me if she doesn’t go to the bathroom or in the kitchen.
I don’t want to intrude but if she has another problem and doesn’t stick to her routine of bedtime ablutions or going to the kitchen for a morning cup of tea i am looking for something that will give me a nudge to check in with her?
Mum has just had a stroke but wants to go back to being at home and independent, is there a motion detector or system that would alert me if she doesn’t go to the bathroom or in the kitchen.
I don’t want to intrude but if she has another problem and doesn’t stick to her routine of bedtime ablutions or going to the kitchen for a morning cup of tea i am looking for something that will give me a nudge to check in with her?
You could put a cctv cam in the hallway that sends you notifications? Eg looks at bathroom door. Pretty cheap on amazon, and wireless - you just need power and a memory card goes in the slot
I found this simple. £26 quid and you’d be done. You can pan and tilt from your phone.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07XR2NWZC?psc=1&...
I found this simple. £26 quid and you’d be done. You can pan and tilt from your phone.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07XR2NWZC?psc=1&...
You could set up a Philips Hue system with motion detectors ... you can check them remotely to see when they were last triggered.
You could also have used IFTTT to send notification events to your phone when (Hue) lights were turned on/off or the sensors triggered but I don't know what the limitations are on the free service offering now - there is quite a low limit on events I think. Going for the pay option should raise/remove the limits but no idea what it now costs.
Of course, plenty of other home automation systems will do similar and maybe even better and possibly without the need for IFTTT. Hue is just the easiest to set up, IMO.
You could also have used IFTTT to send notification events to your phone when (Hue) lights were turned on/off or the sensors triggered but I don't know what the limitations are on the free service offering now - there is quite a low limit on events I think. Going for the pay option should raise/remove the limits but no idea what it now costs.
Of course, plenty of other home automation systems will do similar and maybe even better and possibly without the need for IFTTT. Hue is just the easiest to set up, IMO.
My mum has one like this with the fall detector (not sure if supplied by these people but looks the same, might have been age concern) wears it as a pendent. Fell over in the garden a few months ago, found out later broken both arms and pelvis, and I was called within a few minutes letting me know an ambulance had been called. She’d done it going back into the house just as a the chap who helps her in the garden for an hour or so a week was leaving so I had had him on the phone already and there call came as soon as I hung up.
Before going this route though check it will actually get used, my grandmother used to have something similar and never put it on.
https://www.lifeline24.co.uk/fall-detector-pendant...
Before going this route though check it will actually get used, my grandmother used to have something similar and never put it on.
https://www.lifeline24.co.uk/fall-detector-pendant...
Similar situation, I bought a cheap baby monitor which sends e mails if it detects movement. Set it up with a unique E mail account and set notification on the phone when an e mail is received. Place the camera between bedroom and lounge and you receive an e mail every morning when someone walks past the camera. You can also pan the camera if required. Cost was about £40 for a cheap chinese non brand camera from Amazon.
LemonTart said:
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I don’t want to intrude but if she has another problem and doesn’t stick to her routine of bedtime ablutions or going to the kitchen for a morning cup of tea i am looking for something that will give me a nudge to check in with her?
Have you spoken to your mum about it? I don’t want to intrude but if she has another problem and doesn’t stick to her routine of bedtime ablutions or going to the kitchen for a morning cup of tea i am looking for something that will give me a nudge to check in with her?
There are plenty of web cam/motion detector type devices around. But anything is going to "intrude" to one degree or another. It depends on specifically what you're wanting to check - would a phone call each morning/evening, for example, be sufficient/preferable?
CoolHands said:
You could put a cctv cam in the hallway that sends you notifications? Eg looks at bathroom door. Pretty cheap on amazon, and wireless - you just need power and a memory card goes in the slot
I found this simple. £26 quid and you’d be done. You can pan and tilt from your phone.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07XR2NWZC?psc=1&...
I'd do that, mine drops me an email, it's pan and tilt and you can talk and hear over it. I found this simple. £26 quid and you’d be done. You can pan and tilt from your phone.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07XR2NWZC?psc=1&...
It'd email you each time she goes into the kitchen etc, or stick it in the hallway and it'll email you whenever she goes through that space.
About a month ago, I got an email from BT offering early access to a service called "Encircle" which they're introducing which looks like it would do what you're after. I'll see if I've still got the e-mail.
Here you go, copied the text from the e-mail:-
"Encircle is a new, easier way to stay close to a loved one living on their own.
It empowers people living on their own and helps share the caring.
Using discreet smart sensors around the home and a smartphone app, Encircle notifies family and friends, so you can all check that a loved one is following their usual routine or if help might be needed.
There are no cameras, no audio recordings and it isn’t a medical device. Encircle allows your loved one to continue living independently in their home, while at the same time providing those who care for them with a way to check-in on how they are doing.
You’ll set up Encircle with your loved one, so they will know it is there.
Peace of mind for carers, and the ones they love.
Encircle, supported by BT, has been in development for a while, and we’re excited to offer you early access to Encircle before we launch to everyone else."
Here you go, copied the text from the e-mail:-
"Encircle is a new, easier way to stay close to a loved one living on their own.
It empowers people living on their own and helps share the caring.
Using discreet smart sensors around the home and a smartphone app, Encircle notifies family and friends, so you can all check that a loved one is following their usual routine or if help might be needed.
There are no cameras, no audio recordings and it isn’t a medical device. Encircle allows your loved one to continue living independently in their home, while at the same time providing those who care for them with a way to check-in on how they are doing.
You’ll set up Encircle with your loved one, so they will know it is there.
Peace of mind for carers, and the ones they love.
Encircle, supported by BT, has been in development for a while, and we’re excited to offer you early access to Encircle before we launch to everyone else."
My dad's local council (Coventry) have a service for about £20 a month where they fit a monitor/emergency box on the land line and provide a couple of necklace panic buttons that are linked to the system
Pressing the button for 5 secs triggers the system and an operative can talk to the person hands free. If that does not work then they call the primary on the account and ambulance
seems to be a good system so far ... and they test it every 3 months to make sure all is working
https://www.coventry.gov.uk/info/80/help_to_live_a...
Pressing the button for 5 secs triggers the system and an operative can talk to the person hands free. If that does not work then they call the primary on the account and ambulance
seems to be a good system so far ... and they test it every 3 months to make sure all is working
https://www.coventry.gov.uk/info/80/help_to_live_a...
Telecare is your answer, you can set a disperse alarm and motion sensor set up to call a phone number/multiple number in case there is no movement detected, once the call is connected you can talk through the unit. There are so many adaptions to these systems it really does make returning home from hospitals much easier.
Look for out for a Possum telecare unit or Tynetec Reach IP unit, both of these have GSM units that are futureproof fro when BT remove all the phone line by 2025. Both of these units can have motion sensors among other devices (smoke alarms, pill dispensers, door contacts etc.) to help your mum stay at home. Just be aware that OT may point you towards local council’s telecare teams but this is monthly charge for them to answer the calls and then call you. The cost of the unit out right is normally paid for in 6 months rental!!!
Look for out for a Possum telecare unit or Tynetec Reach IP unit, both of these have GSM units that are futureproof fro when BT remove all the phone line by 2025. Both of these units can have motion sensors among other devices (smoke alarms, pill dispensers, door contacts etc.) to help your mum stay at home. Just be aware that OT may point you towards local council’s telecare teams but this is monthly charge for them to answer the calls and then call you. The cost of the unit out right is normally paid for in 6 months rental!!!
clumsen said:
Telecare is your answer, you can set a disperse alarm and motion sensor set up to call a phone number/multiple number in case there is no movement detected, once the call is connected you can talk through the unit. There are so many adaptions to these systems it really does make returning home from hospitals much easier.
Look for out for a Possum telecare unit or Tynetec Reach IP unit, both of these have GSM units that are futureproof fro when BT remove all the phone line by 2025. Both of these units can have motion sensors among other devices (smoke alarms, pill dispensers, door contacts etc.) to help your mum stay at home. Just be aware that OT may point you towards local council’s telecare teams but this is monthly charge for them to answer the calls and then call you. The cost of the unit out right is normally paid for in 6 months rental!!!
Coventry CC supplied the unit FOC to me when I put it in my dad's houseLook for out for a Possum telecare unit or Tynetec Reach IP unit, both of these have GSM units that are futureproof fro when BT remove all the phone line by 2025. Both of these units can have motion sensors among other devices (smoke alarms, pill dispensers, door contacts etc.) to help your mum stay at home. Just be aware that OT may point you towards local council’s telecare teams but this is monthly charge for them to answer the calls and then call you. The cost of the unit out right is normally paid for in 6 months rental!!!
arfur said:
Coventry CC supplied the unit FOC to me when I put it in my dad's house
Yes but the units are paid for after 6 months monitoring costs are taken form the person with their FOC unit. If its a long term option it is far cheaper to buy the unit and answer the calls yourself. I work in the service side of the Telecare industry and the money councils make from these FOC units is outrageous. I think the OP is after something like this but not in kit form, basically just detects movement using PIR and fires off an email.
https://www.thingsonedge.com/post/iot-wifi-motion-...
https://www.thingsonedge.com/post/iot-wifi-motion-...
Used this system for my mum, for overall continuous checking of home environment and her daily routine movements. It is versatile, economic and easy to operate/monitor with up-to-date computer graphs and text messages
https://textcare.azurewebsites.net/
This performs a different function from emergency alarms, e.g with a worn pendant, which are needed in addition.
thebraketester said:
Matt Cup said:
How about utilising an apple air tag? Or would that be too intrusive?
I don't think they can be used to achieve what the OP requires. Edited by Matt Cup on Saturday 16th October 19:46
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