Apple Screentime bug?
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jock mcsporran

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5,126 posts

303 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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Seems to be a long running bug that screentime doesn’t work with YouTube and Instagram, arguably two of the apps I don’t want him wasting hours on. I’ve searched all over but I can’t seem to find a solution.

Doesn’t matter what settings you put for downtime or time restrictions, it simply doesn’t action them. I’ve tried deleting the apps from his phone and reinstalling them but no better.

Anybody know of a solution or is there another app that actually works?

Vanden Crash

835 posts

80 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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Block the top level domains as well


surveyor

18,699 posts

214 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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My daughter found a workaround screentime years ago. I've not managed to defeat it.

I have found that setting max time on apps of 10minutes does work and gets instant results.

audi321

6,170 posts

243 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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Screentime does work, but by god it's overly complicated and has many faults (not bugs) for example the 'one more minute' is annoying that you cannot stop it (so effectively, they can get one more minute on every app! Potentially another 60 minutes if they have 60 apps!).

To answer your question, it should block the YT app, but I assume the fault you are experiencing is the fact that Safari is an 'allowed' app by default (and I assume your child is accessing YT through that?). The way to stop it is to limit Safari to 1 minute.

It's a perfect example of developers overcomplicating what 99% of the users want to do - which is to instantly block a child's phone when required, for a period of time the parent wants to! It's over engineered to the hilt.

Edited by audi321 on Saturday 1st January 17:15

jock mcsporran

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5,126 posts

303 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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audi321 said:
Screentime does work, but by god it's overly complicated and has many faults (not bugs) for example the 'one more minute' is annoying that you cannot stop it (so effectively, they can get one more minute on every app! Potentially another 60 minutes if they have 60 apps!).

To answer your question, it should block the YT app, but I assume the fault you are experiencing is the fact that Safari is an 'allowed' app by default (and I assume your child is accessing YT through that?). The way to stop it is to limit Safari to 1 minute.

It's a perfect example of developers overcomplicating what 99% of the users want to do - which is to instantly block a child's phone when required, for a period of time the parent wants to! It's over engineered to the hilt.

Edited by audi321 on Saturday 1st January 17:15
This is the YouTube app. Seems it's been a problem since Screentime was introduced and Apple have closed their ears to it.

CoolHands

23,565 posts

225 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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I just find it doesn’t work well. I should be able to see my daughters info on my phone but I just get spinny wheel type nonsense

Tycho

12,285 posts

303 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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CoolHands said:
I just find it doesn’t work well. I should be able to see my daughters info on my phone but I just get spinny wheel type nonsense
Agreed, it’s not a patch on the Google version for android. Most of the time any changes I make for my son’s phone take hours to get to his phone and when he requests more time the request usually doesn’t arrive on my phone for a few hours. I don’t know why I can’t give him bonus time for one day but have to change the schedule and remember to put it back the next day.

Vanden Crash

835 posts

80 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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Sounds like it may be your set up as that’s not the experience I have

deckster

9,631 posts

285 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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This is going to sound lazy and condescending, but hey ho.

I have long been of the opinion that limiting your child's screen time is a discipline problem and not a technical one. Applying technical solutions to discipline problems rarely works, as we can see here.

Parenting 101 (told you this was going to be condescending): set boundaries, with consequences, and act on them. If you tell them to get off their phone and they don't, they lose the phone for an hour. If they spend longer than they are allowed, they lose the phone for an hour. If they repeat it, they lose the phone for a day. It's not rocket science.

Technical solutions like the above might sound nice and simple, but effectively you're (a) relying on a potentially flaky piece of software, and (b) more importantly, you're starting a piece of technical warfare that you are, probably, going to lose. How confident are you that your IT skills are better than a 12-year-old who has been tech-native since birth?

Vanden Crash

835 posts

80 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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That’s actually a great post, I firmly believe the same for the work place and we’d be in a much better place if we just educated staff and saved millions on the technical controls we could remove

surveyor

18,699 posts

214 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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deckster said:
This is going to sound lazy and condescending, but hey ho.

I have long been of the opinion that limiting your child's screen time is a discipline problem and not a technical one. Applying technical solutions to discipline problems rarely works, as we can see here.

Parenting 101 (told you this was going to be condescending): set boundaries, with consequences, and act on them. If you tell them to get off their phone and they don't, they lose the phone for an hour. If they spend longer than they are allowed, they lose the phone for an hour. If they repeat it, they lose the phone for a day. It's not rocket science.

Technical solutions like the above might sound nice and simple, but effectively you're (a) relying on a potentially flaky piece of software, and (b) more importantly, you're starting a piece of technical warfare that you are, probably, going to lose. How confident are you that your IT skills are better than a 12-year-old who has been tech-native since birth?
12 twelve that works. At 15 when the kids awake later than you and testing boundaries less so!

How old are your kids?

deckster

9,631 posts

285 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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surveyor said:
12 twelve that works. At 15 when the kids awake later than you and testing boundaries less so!

How old are your kids?
Older than yours. At 15, I wasn't controlling their access in any way.