New Website - What to Build On?
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I know a bit about websites (but nothing about building them) and currently getting quotes for a total redesign of the front end.
It's for a golf course, however the back end (memberships, golf scores, tee booking, H'Caps, comps etc) are all handled by a third party, via a members login button. The third party specialises on this side of it and does it very well, used by 100's of golf courses.
So the frond end is not taking payments. Just needs to look good, modern, well branded etc. SEO is very important. I need fillable forms for memberships etc.
I have 2 quotes so far, one is looking to use Wordpress and the other Webflow. Anyone have an opinion on these two?
Thanks
It's for a golf course, however the back end (memberships, golf scores, tee booking, H'Caps, comps etc) are all handled by a third party, via a members login button. The third party specialises on this side of it and does it very well, used by 100's of golf courses.
So the frond end is not taking payments. Just needs to look good, modern, well branded etc. SEO is very important. I need fillable forms for memberships etc.
I have 2 quotes so far, one is looking to use Wordpress and the other Webflow. Anyone have an opinion on these two?
Thanks
You’ll get a ton of responses with peoples ideological preferences. Here’s my recommendation: a tutorial showing how to set up a website that uses a Hugo template…
https://smaller.fish/posts/hugo
https://smaller.fish/posts/hugo
PBDirector said:
You’ll get a ton of responses with peoples ideological preferences. Here’s my recommendation: a tutorial showing how to set up a website that uses a Hugo template…
https://smaller.fish/posts/hugo
Thanks, I am not going to build the website, we are paying someone else to.https://smaller.fish/posts/hugo
We are looking for something like this, but a bit more of an inclusive family feel.
https://www.cleevehillgolfclub.co.uk/
Edited by skilly1 on Thursday 24th February 12:53
skilly1 said:
Thanks, I am not going to build the website, we are paying someone else to.
We are looking for something like this, but a bit more of an inclusive family feel.
https://www.cleevehillgolfclub.co.uk/
You might’ve already done this. We are looking for something like this, but a bit more of an inclusive family feel.
https://www.cleevehillgolfclub.co.uk/
Edited by skilly1 on Thursday 24th February 12:53
But easiest thing to do is get in touch with the people that built that site:
https://www.golfworking.co.uk/
Ask them to quote you for something similar etc.
Gilmore said:
You might’ve already done this.
But easiest thing to do is get in touch with the people that built that site:
https://www.golfworking.co.uk/
Ask them to quote you for something similar etc.
I have done exactly that ! They built on WordPress, another quote which I like is looking build on Webflow. Just trying to see if one is better than the other from a platform viewpoint.But easiest thing to do is get in touch with the people that built that site:
https://www.golfworking.co.uk/
Ask them to quote you for something similar etc.
skilly1 said:
I have done exactly that ! They built on WordPress, another quote which I like is looking build on Webflow. Just trying to see if one is better than the other from a platform viewpoint.
Very good. IMO, no, one isn’t better than the other.
If you’re going to be designing and building yourself (which you’re not) then Webflow is pretty cool and has a good visual design editor.
Apart from that they’re relatively similar.
When it comes to making edits and changes further down the line - you’ll find far more people familiar with Wordpress than you will Webflow which’ll make it cheaper.
Are you paying the company building it to manage the site once it is live? I don't mean content updates you might add like news, event details etc but patching the site.
I don't know about Webflow but you need to keep on top of updates for WordPress (especially any themes or plug-ins being used) as security holes are discovered fairly often. Wordpress does have an updater built in (which also does the theme and plug-ins) but it needs to be done reasonably often.
I don't know about Webflow but you need to keep on top of updates for WordPress (especially any themes or plug-ins being used) as security holes are discovered fairly often. Wordpress does have an updater built in (which also does the theme and plug-ins) but it needs to be done reasonably often.
I don't design websites for a living but I have done a few and maintain them so my view is it doesn't really matter what platform its built on.
The most important things (to me at least) are:
Who is designing / building it, do I believe they can fulfill the look and feel I want for the site, do I think I can have a good on-going working relationship with them.
Cost both initial and ongoing.
Security
Recoverability
The first point should be clear and I'll skip it.
Costs:
Only you have a budget in mind and how close both quotes are to it and each other, if you are having both firms quite for ongoing support then its worth noting that webflow is a "subscription" type service.
Depending on the level its ~$20-40 pcm and thats paid indefinitely while your site is active, balance this with the wordpress site which has a annual hosting fee but would likely be more resource intensive for your management firm as they'll need to keep on top of, patching bug fixes and code updates as well as the content updates.
Security:
I think thats a wash, as webflow is a hosted package service you should be insulated from the day to day security aspects and only a significant attach to there platform would cause you a outage / issue, which I'd expect the managing firm to deal with.
Wordpress is slightly different in that you are relying on the managing team to keep the sites code updated and patched to keep it secure, as long as this is costed into support you'll be ok I'd suggest but it comes back to point 1, also worth noting that wordpress it the most used web platform and so the biggest target.
Recoverability:
webflow is a closed system so if you decided that ongoing costs were too high you can't (I believe) just port the site to another platform or host you are tied into their ecosystem, I'd also want to understand form the creating/managing firm how they handle a request to move your site to another webflow support firm, also whats the plan if webflow disappear overnight.
Wordpress is much more portable and should the hosting provider go pop you just move your last backup to a new one.
Personally I create on squarespace & accept I'm tied into that platform but I have all the content backed up in various forms so if I had to recreate a site I could do so in a few hours to get up and running and perhaps a couple of days for any bells and whistles. So if it were me I'd worry about the creative / support team more than anything.
The most important things (to me at least) are:
Who is designing / building it, do I believe they can fulfill the look and feel I want for the site, do I think I can have a good on-going working relationship with them.
Cost both initial and ongoing.
Security
Recoverability
The first point should be clear and I'll skip it.
Costs:
Only you have a budget in mind and how close both quotes are to it and each other, if you are having both firms quite for ongoing support then its worth noting that webflow is a "subscription" type service.
Depending on the level its ~$20-40 pcm and thats paid indefinitely while your site is active, balance this with the wordpress site which has a annual hosting fee but would likely be more resource intensive for your management firm as they'll need to keep on top of, patching bug fixes and code updates as well as the content updates.
Security:
I think thats a wash, as webflow is a hosted package service you should be insulated from the day to day security aspects and only a significant attach to there platform would cause you a outage / issue, which I'd expect the managing firm to deal with.
Wordpress is slightly different in that you are relying on the managing team to keep the sites code updated and patched to keep it secure, as long as this is costed into support you'll be ok I'd suggest but it comes back to point 1, also worth noting that wordpress it the most used web platform and so the biggest target.
Recoverability:
webflow is a closed system so if you decided that ongoing costs were too high you can't (I believe) just port the site to another platform or host you are tied into their ecosystem, I'd also want to understand form the creating/managing firm how they handle a request to move your site to another webflow support firm, also whats the plan if webflow disappear overnight.
Wordpress is much more portable and should the hosting provider go pop you just move your last backup to a new one.
Personally I create on squarespace & accept I'm tied into that platform but I have all the content backed up in various forms so if I had to recreate a site I could do so in a few hours to get up and running and perhaps a couple of days for any bells and whistles. So if it were me I'd worry about the creative / support team more than anything.
PBDirector said:
You’ll get a ton of responses with peoples ideological preferences. Here’s my recommendation: a tutorial showing how to set up a website that uses a Hugo template…
https://smaller.fish/posts/hugo
Thanks for this - a nice little weekend project! https://smaller.fish/posts/hugo
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