Using devices abroad
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scenario8

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7,969 posts

209 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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Apologies for being the village idiot in such matters.

Can I use my devices abroad? We’re going on holiday abroad this year. A novelty for us. The place we’re renting advertises itself as having WiFi and this phone has international roaming too. Can we not take a Sonos speaker and an Amazon firestick and get them to work whilst we’re away? Or is that just not how it works at all?

We’ll be taking an iPhone and an iPad to potentially use as controllers for the Sonos product (as well as the firestick remote) if that makes a difference.

Holidaying in Holland if that has any bearing too.

Percy Cushion

1,271 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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Yes you can, you’ll just need the appropriate chargers and all be on the same network (Wi-Fi or hotspot)

parabolica

7,017 posts

214 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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One tip I would give is that if you’re going to a country with a different electrical output at the sockets, don’t use up adaptors on your chargers as it can mess them up. For a few quid I’d get a local plug at your destination airport or shopping mall; they are ten a penny everywhere and won’t mess up the charging of your device.

ETA Sorry OP only just noticed you said Holland - an adaptor will be fine. See my post below for a better explanation.

Edited by parabolica on Thursday 23 June 07:43

Mazinbrum

1,384 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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parabolica said:
One tip I would give is that if you’re going to a country with a different electrical output at the sockets, don’t use up adaptors on your chargers as it can mess them up. For a few quid I’d get a local plug at your destination airport or shopping mall; they are ten a penny everywhere and won’t mess up the charging of your device.
I’ve never had this problem, always use adaptors with chargers.

h0b0

9,078 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Power the fire stick on the TV usb.

I just did this in Canada and worked fine. The first night I used one of my kids phones as a hotspot for the fire tv and was impressed that it worked. After that, I successfully reset the wifi network so used that.


Another tip…. I take power strips with me so only need one adapter for multiple devices. There are limits to this method, but assuming you are only charging phones and not running 8 hairdryers and a microwave, there’s no risk.

Captain_Morgan

1,453 posts

89 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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parabolica said:
One tip I would give is that if you’re going to a country with a different electrical output at the sockets, don’t use up adaptors on your chargers as it can mess them up. For a few quid I’d get a local plug at your destination airport or shopping mall; they are ten a penny everywhere and won’t mess up the charging of your device.
I’m quite sure they use 220v in Europe, I’m also sure that is close enough to 240v that the the op will be okay with travel adapters.

The worse case is the moves and music will be a little slow with the lower voltage...

generationx

9,209 posts

135 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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I've been using UK-market phones, tablets and laptops in Europe for years, not a single problem. I still use the UK-spec plugs through normal (read: cheap) adapters from places like Boots or the airport shops if I'm caught short.

Don't worry about it.

parabolica

7,017 posts

214 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Mazinbrum said:
parabolica said:
One tip I would give is that if you’re going to a country with a different electrical output at the sockets, don’t use up adaptors on your chargers as it can mess them up. For a few quid I’d get a local plug at your destination airport or shopping mall; they are ten a penny everywhere and won’t mess up the charging of your device.
I’ve never had this problem, always use adaptors with chargers.
If you're in Europe where the use 220v, adaptors are fine. But every time I've travelled to the US or Canada for example either my devices don't charge fully/properly and I've come away with decreased battery life. First time I thought it was just coincidence but I've been a few times and it happens every time; my work had to replace my laptop battery after I spent a month in the US using an adaptor on my UK plug and they told me that was the reason. I've now got a US-style USB plug and plug-to-battery lead for my laptop - no issues since.

Some of the more expensive adaptors have built in gubbins to compensate for the change in voltage, but the cheap ones most people buy don't,

craig1912

4,658 posts

142 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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May also need a VPN depending on what services you use as some (I think Sky go) expect you to be in the UK.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Captain_Morgan said:
I’m quite sure they use 220v in Europe, I’m also sure that is close enough to 240v that the the op will be okay with travel adapters.

The worse case is the moves and music will be a little slow with the lower voltage...
230v in Europe and 230v in UK now too.

spitfire-ian

4,231 posts

258 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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I've not tried it myself but I'm not sure moving a Sonos speaker from your own wifi to a new one is going to work without removing it from your system and creating a new one on the holiday wifi. Unless it's a Roam or Move of course then that'll just work as a Bluetooth speaker.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

273 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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craig1912 said:
May also need a VPN depending on what services you use as some (I think Sky go) expect you to be in the UK.
Absolutely! Since Brexit most of the UK TV services no longer work in Europe without a VPN as they have geographical exclusions now. Not sure about a Fire Stick but the only one that seems to work ok on a laptop without running through a VPN is BBC Sounds. Even using the VPN that is part of McAfee required frequent selections of other "countries" as, particularly Sky Go, would be smart to it. Frustrating when you are trying to watch the F1 while perched on the edge of the Arctic Circle.

Captain_Morgan

1,453 posts

89 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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sebdangerfield said:
Captain_Morgan said:
I’m quite sure they use 220v in Europe, I’m also sure that is close enough to 240v that the the op will be okay with travel adapters.

The worse case is the moves and music will be a little slow with the lower voltage...
230v in Europe and 230v in UK now too.
That’s not the Brexit* I voted for….. biggrin





  • I didn’t.

RizzoTheRat

28,985 posts

222 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Take a UK 4 way mains strip and then you just need 1 adaptor plug.
You'll need a VPN if you want to watch iPlayer or similar (Nord or PureVPN both work well). Prime or Netflix will work, however some programs won't be available if they're UK only.
Spotify should work fine.
Check roaming costs for you phone, quite a few providers have stopped doing free roaming, if so you can usually either pay per call/MB, or buy a bundle which will give a number of minutes/Mb to use in a month. Alternatively buy a local PAYG SIM card

(I live in NL, our prime account is UK, Spotify account is Dutch but works in UK)

megaphone

11,684 posts

281 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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tonyvid said:
craig1912 said:
May also need a VPN depending on what services you use as some (I think Sky go) expect you to be in the UK.
Absolutely! Since Brexit most of the UK TV services no longer work in Europe without a VPN as they have geographical exclusions now. Not sure about a Fire Stick but the only one that seems to work ok on a laptop without running through a VPN is BBC Sounds. Even using the VPN that is part of McAfee required frequent selections of other "countries" as, particularly Sky Go, would be smart to it. Frustrating when you are trying to watch the F1 while perched on the edge of the Arctic Circle.
Has nothing to do with Brexit.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

273 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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megaphone said:
tonyvid said:
craig1912 said:
May also need a VPN depending on what services you use as some (I think Sky go) expect you to be in the UK.
Absolutely! Since Brexit most of the UK TV services no longer work in Europe without a VPN as they have geographical exclusions now. Not sure about a Fire Stick but the only one that seems to work ok on a laptop without running through a VPN is BBC Sounds. Even using the VPN that is part of McAfee required frequent selections of other "countries" as, particularly Sky Go, would be smart to it. Frustrating when you are trying to watch the F1 while perched on the edge of the Arctic Circle.
Has nothing to do with Brexit.
Maybe the wording should be no longer in Europe then but from the Sky website
"Viewing Sky abroad

From 1 January 2021, you won’t be entitled to stream Sky outside the UK using your Sky Go, Sky Kids, Sky Sports and Sky Sports Box Office apps. Some Sky apps will allow you to download your favourite shows and movies over WiFi before you leave home to watch offline while you’re abroad.

Certain rules mean people within the EU can stream content across all EU countries. From 1 January 2021, the UK will no longer be part of the EU, so we won’t be able to provide this service in the same way.

This change affects lots of online video, music and entertainment services, not just Sky."

scenario8

Original Poster:

7,969 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Thanks for the replies, chaps.

I’m not sure I fully understand how the Sonos might be affected so will look into that further.

Sounds like the firestick is worth taking (especially since it is so small) and hopefully that will just “work”.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

273 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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RizzoTheRat said:
Take a UK 4 way mains strip and then you just need 1 adaptor plug.
This is a great idea and something I do, so much better than loads of adaptors hanging out the socket with the weight of various chargers trying to pull them out the wall. In fairness, I usually have a room full of camera kit so the mains strip has now increased to 3!

Griffith4ever

6,964 posts

65 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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parabolica said:
Mazinbrum said:
parabolica said:
One tip I would give is that if you’re going to a country with a different electrical output at the sockets, don’t use up adaptors on your chargers as it can mess them up. For a few quid I’d get a local plug at your destination airport or shopping mall; they are ten a penny everywhere and won’t mess up the charging of your device.
I’ve never had this problem, always use adaptors with chargers.
If you're in Europe where the use 220v, adaptors are fine. But every time I've travelled to the US or Canada for example either my devices don't charge fully/properly and I've come away with decreased battery life. First time I thought it was just coincidence but I've been a few times and it happens every time; my work had to replace my laptop battery after I spent a month in the US using an adaptor on my UK plug and they told me that was the reason. I've now got a US-style USB plug and plug-to-battery lead for my laptop - no issues since.

Some of the more expensive adaptors have built in gubbins to compensate for the change in voltage, but the cheap ones most people buy don't,
USA and Canada operate on 110v, NOT 240v.

Your chargers have to be rated for both, which most are not.

Griffith4ever

6,964 posts

65 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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scenario8 said:
Thanks for the replies, chaps.

I’m not sure I fully understand how the Sonos might be affected so will look into that further.

Sounds like the firestick is worth taking (especially since it is so small) and hopefully that will just “work”.
All your gear will work in Europe, including your Sonos. You'll just have to enter the new WiFi credentials in each device when you arrive.