Ethernet vs WiFi
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Upatdawn

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2,194 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th July
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im on BT full fibre 500mb/s

on ethernet my PC hits 500Mb/s-1.2Gb/s, its right by my Eero hub

on WiFi it struggles to hit 90 Mb/s

PC is 8 years old, on Win10

I believe the wifi adapter maybe restrictive, how do i check the adapter?

thanks

Panamax

6,771 posts

51 months

Thursday 17th July
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Upatdawn said:
PC is 8 years old, on Win10
Buy a new PC.

Upatdawn

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th July
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Manufacturer: Ralink Technology, Corp.
Description: 802.11n Wireless LAN Card
Driver version: 5.0.57.1


Upatdawn

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th July
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Panamax said:
Buy a new PC.
cute

what with, buttons?

LunarOne

6,516 posts

154 months

Thursday 17th July
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Upatdawn said:
Panamax said:
Buy a new PC.
cute

what with, buttons?
They're all touch-screen now!

Panamax

6,771 posts

51 months

Thursday 17th July
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Upatdawn said:
Panamax said:
Buy a new PC.
cute: what with, buttons?
"The average lifespan of a personal computer (PC) is typically between 3 to 8 years, depending on whether it is a desktop or a laptop and how well it is maintained."

Digger

15,783 posts

208 months

Thursday 17th July
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Why the question if I may ask? smile

If ethernet works fine I am assuming you are wishing to to relocate your PC further away from the router?

A half decent USB WiFi adapter should improve WiFi speeds.

Mr E

22,528 posts

276 months

Thursday 17th July
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Upatdawn said:
Manufacturer: Ralink Technology, Corp.
Description: 802.11n Wireless LAN Card
Driver version: 5.0.57.1
802.11n is 2009.
Depending on bandwidth and number of antennas almost certainly your bottleneck.

megaphone

11,260 posts

268 months

Friday 18th July
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802.11n (wifi 4) is capable of speeds 'up to' 600mbps. In real usage you won't get those speeds. However you should get better than the 90mbps your PC is achieving.

I suspect your PC is using 2.4ghz which is slow, you need to make sure it is connected to 5ghz if it can. You should be able to access the BT router and rename the 5Ghz SSID, then you can ensure the PC, and other devices, only connect to 5Ghz.

LeoSayer

7,572 posts

261 months

Friday 18th July
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Have you checked the WiFi speeds on any device other than the PC WiFi adapter?

Griffith4ever

5,779 posts

52 months

Friday 18th July
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PC wifi adapters often have an antenna far to close to the metal case / too low, and as yours is, out of date. A USB 3 wifi 5/6 dongle kept away from the case, and higher up, like on your desk will make the workd of difference.

Edit, nothing wrong with an 8 year old PC running Win 10. I eek out similar numbers with card upgrades.

gangzoom

7,491 posts

232 months

Friday 18th July
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Looks like 90 Mbs is likely the max speed from WiFi4 standards. Still faster than the connection I get from the router - 80 Mbs frown

https://www.speedguide.net/faq/what-is-the-actual-...

wyson

3,752 posts

121 months

Friday 18th July
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What Eero hub is it?

drmotorsport

880 posts

260 months

Friday 18th July
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So use the ethernet then, why use wifi unless you really have to. Wifi is just radio and subject to the same environmental 'reception' issues..

98elise

30,224 posts

178 months

Friday 18th July
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Panamax said:
Upatdawn said:
Panamax said:
Buy a new PC.
cute: what with, buttons?
"The average lifespan of a personal computer (PC) is typically between 3 to 8 years, depending on whether it is a desktop or a laptop and how well it is maintained."
I don't think we have a laptop under 8 years old in the house. They all work fine with zero maintenance.

Batfoy

1,329 posts

23 months

Friday 18th July
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Upatdawn said:
Panamax said:
Buy a new PC.
cute

what with, buttons?
You could try it and see, I just bought my new laptop with money. Seemed to go ok.

Inbox

375 posts

3 months

Friday 18th July
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There is a lot extra overhead on the Wi-Fi that reduces the user throughput compared to a cabled ethernet connection.

You see huge speeds marketed on Wi-Fi devices but this is the raw throughtput i.e. the max no. of bits that can be squeezed through the link under ideal radio conditions including the overhead.

As with these things speeds are always 'upto'. If you want stable fast speeds use a cable as there are too many variables with a radio link that affects throughput.

Mr E

22,528 posts

276 months

Saturday 19th July
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98elise said:
I don't think we have a laptop under 8 years old in the house. They all work fine with zero maintenance.
Every desktop in the house is over 12 years old and running pretty well for what they need to do.

Sixpackpert

4,913 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th July
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Win 10 support is stopping in October so might be worth an upgrade anyway.

Lucas Ayde

3,951 posts

185 months

Saturday 19th July
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Inbox said:
There is a lot extra overhead on the Wi-Fi that reduces the user throughput compared to a cabled ethernet connection.

You see huge speeds marketed on Wi-Fi devices but this is the raw throughtput i.e. the max no. of bits that can be squeezed through the link under ideal radio conditions including the overhead.

As with these things speeds are always 'upto'. If you want stable fast speeds use a cable as there are too many variables with a radio link that affects throughput.
It's the contention between devices trying to 'talk' at the same time. The more WiFi devices that are active, the worse it gets. Modern ethernet is switched so it doesn't suffer from that. (Early versions were also shared, back when 10mbit/s ethernet was the 'fast' version).

A rare upside with older non-5GHz Wifi devices is that they will be forced onto the 2.4GHz network and won't compete with other things on your 5GHz WiFi. Otherwise, modern routers seem to force the same SSID for both networks and shift everything that can do it to 5GHz .. only dropping stuff back to 2.4GHz if they lose signal.