Hiding an ethernet cable?
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Acuity31

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

Long story short, the 5GHz wifi chip is failing on my PS5 (confirmed using two separate 5GHz sources, 2.4GHz still works fine).
Both PS5 and router is in the living room but on opposite sides with a door in the way.
My options now are to either have the PS5 repaired (costly as the chip is soldered onto the mobo), stick with 2.4GHz which seems to give me a maximum download speed of 97mbps, whereas on 5GHz I get the full 150 I'm paying for.
Or, convert to ethernet and run a cable. If I choose this option how do I hide the cable as best as possible?
Worth noting the room has laminate flooring, so it's not like I can hide it under the carpet with one of those flat CAT6 cables unfortunately.
Thanks

dundarach

5,952 posts

250 months

Power line jobbies??

944 Man

1,852 posts

154 months

I assume that you are asking because carefully cut and neatly applied trunking is out of the question?

Acuity31

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

944 Man said:
I assume that you are asking because carefully cut and neatly applied trunking is out of the question?
I mean I guess it's an option, but the trunking kits I've seen are quite a bit bulkier than a flat white cat6 cable so somewhat defeats the purpose Vs just using cable clips along the skirting

JoshSm

3,255 posts

59 months

Get a 5Ghz capable wifi extender with an ethernet port and connect to that.

bobthemonkey

4,169 posts

238 months

Why not go for an ethernet bridge?

Acuity31

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

JoshSm said:
Get a 5Ghz capable wifi extender with an ethernet port and connect to that.
Something like this?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Extender-Broadban...

That could work well. You can also get those kits which somehow send ethernet through your plug socket wiring correct? But those cost quite a bit more Vs this option which in reality shouldn't lose much speed since it's literally about 10ft from the router

RizzoTheRat

27,924 posts

214 months

I used double sided tape to stick a flat ethernet cable to the top of the skirting, most of it is hidden behind furniture anyway.

wombleh

2,282 posts

144 months

You can get flat or slim cables which may be easier to hide, e.g. under the skirting, but may look naff with hard flooring. Drilling through wall and run the cable around the outside of the house would be another option.

Or get something else wifi with Ethernet connection to act as an external wifi bridge. A spare AP/router, wifi extender, wifi Ethernet adapter, raspberry pi, all could do the job with varying degrees of faff.

Nothingtoseehere

4,955 posts

209 months

As above, any 5ghz wifi access point/mesh node. That connects wireless to your router and you have an ethernet from your ps5 to the access point.

I'm not sure how much that costs compared to getting your ps5 fixed.

I use deco products for mesh. I've got a bunch of these https://amzn.eu/d/07pKV5Rn old kit now but more than good enough for your needs.

TheRainMaker

7,567 posts

264 months

Timfy

482 posts

141 months

I used the D-line stuff in my last house, it mostly worked well and they made a wood 'effect' trunking that did actually blend convincingly with the trim that was around the flooring.

Current house I've popped off the skirting and run it around, it seemed the most discreet method without causing too much destruction.

I would be aware that some models of PS5 are quite temperamental with ethernet connection so you may find yourself limited to 100mb/s and only marginally less latency than on 2.4Ghz anyway, or other weird issues like constantly repeating "An ethernet cable is connected" notifications- so you may want to test run a wired connection before ripping your house apart to hide a wire.

It seems to vary a lot across different PS5 revisions and firmware versions- I find wired gives lower latency but also lower overall speed than wireless (<100mb/s vs >400mb/s) which can be annoying when downloading massive updates




Edited by Timfy on Friday 20th February 22:11

944 Man

1,852 posts

154 months

Acuity31 said:
944 Man said:
I assume that you are asking because carefully cut and neatly applied trunking is out of the question?
I mean I guess it's an option, but the trunking kits I've seen are quite a bit bulkier than a flat white cat6 cable so somewhat defeats the purpose Vs just using cable clips along the skirting
Trunking is available in a range of sizes, but it is all very square and very white...

I would suggest power line adapters then, in theory. I say this because I have definitely bought some, but I definitely do not know where they are and I am not sure that they immediately worked as I had expected. Mine were a reasonable brand (perhaps BT?) but I bought on price rather than reviews.

They certainly work: don't cheap out. biggrin

Sheepshanks

39,080 posts

141 months

Acuity31 said:
My options now are to either have the PS5 repaired (costly as the chip is soldered onto the mobo), stick with 2.4GHz which seems to give me a maximum download speed of 97mbps, whereas on 5GHz I get the full 150 I'm paying for.
Or, convert to ethernet and run a cable. If I choose this option how do I hide the cable as best as possible?
Or, downgrade to the 100Mbps package?

Acuity31

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

I don't really want to give up on the wifi issue because when doing research, it seems the 5ghz chip on the PS5 is not known to fail.
Essentially the issue is as follows:

- Can see 5Ghz SSID's even displaying full signal, but when trying to connect it says unable to obtain IP address and under network info it displays 0% signal strength.
- Will connect no issues to 2.4Ghz
- Will not connect to mobile phone hotspot if at 5GHz, but will connect at 2.4GHz (essentially bypassing the Sky router entirely, ruling that out as a router side problem).
- All other devices in the house connect to 5ghz no problem
- This issue began a few days ago where the 5GHz connection was intermittent, today it failed to connect entirely. Which would indicate failing hardware.

Regardless I spent an hour on the phone to a Sky techie earlier who was equally baffled and concluded it must be the wifi chip on the console. As we tried:

- Hard power cycling PS5 and router
- Power cycling OpenReach box
- Forget network on PS5 and reconnect
- Factory reset router
- Separate SSID's for 2.4 and 5ghz networks
- Changed 5Ghz bands
- Set up a manual connection, using a fixed IP and Googles DNS settings
- Tried to connect with no security in place

He said he has never seen such a problem before.
The last two things i'll try before throwing in the towel and using an ethernet solution is plugging the PS5 in a different room entirely to see if it's some kind of interference from an appliance. Then factory reset it. I hate being beaten by tech problems but maybe it is just an extremely rare case of a failed wifi chip. I couldn't find a single example of this happening to anyone else though

Acuity31

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

Screw it just ordered the flattest, white CAT6 and flat profile white skirting clips I could find for a total of £10. If it means never having to worry about wifi instability again I can put up with the mild eyesore,

Matty_

2,259 posts

279 months

It could be the WiFi attena has popped off the chip - as seen here:
https://kittdigital.com/products/ps5-playstation-5...

There are small UFL connectors which clip on (you can see the ends on the black and white cables above) This would explain why it works on 2.4, but not 5Ghz, and why the signal is incredibly poor. It'd have to have had a whack for these to pop off, as while they only pop on, they don't just fall off unless snagged or pulled.

I've seen similar before on laptops. Easy enough to fix, if you're willing to pull it apart....there's a teardown on iFixit. Note, this is advisory only, and you do this at your own risk, etc etc wink

Acuity31

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

Matty_ said:
It could be the WiFi attena has popped off the chip - as seen here:
https://kittdigital.com/products/ps5-playstation-5...

There are small UFL connectors which clip on (you can see the ends on the black and white cables above) This would explain why it works on 2.4, but not 5Ghz, and why the signal is incredibly poor. It'd have to have had a whack for these to pop off, as while they only pop on, they don't just fall off unless snagged or pulled.

I've seen similar before on laptops. Easy enough to fix, if you're willing to pull it apart....there's a teardown on iFixit. Note, this is advisory only, and you do this at your own risk, etc etc wink
I think you may be right as the issues began after moving house and the console got a bit knocked around in the boot. For the sake of a tenner I'll see how I like the ethernet cable routing before opening her up

Nothingtoseehere

4,955 posts

209 months

Yesterday (09:48)
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Acuity31 said:
Screw it just ordered the flattest, white CAT6 and flat profile white skirting clips I could find for a total of £10. If it means never having to worry about wifi instability again I can put up with the mild eyesore,
Might cate5e be better as it's more flexible?

Nothingtoseehere

4,955 posts

209 months

Yesterday (09:49)
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Sheepshanks said:
Acuity31 said:
My options now are to either have the PS5 repaired (costly as the chip is soldered onto the mobo), stick with 2.4GHz which seems to give me a maximum download speed of 97mbps, whereas on 5GHz I get the full 150 I'm paying for.
Or, convert to ethernet and run a cable. If I choose this option how do I hide the cable as best as possible?
Or, downgrade to the 100Mbps package?
biggrin Tbh it's upload and latency that'll be your limiting factors not 100Mbps vs 150Mbps download. You won't notice that.