Alexa+ rolling out in the UK
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FourWheelDrift

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92,023 posts

309 months

Thursday 19th March
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Just updated mine to see what the differences is and I am very confused.

I have 3 devices, Echo Show 8 (latest gen), Echo Dot (4th Generation) Echo Show 8 (1st generation). I expected the first two to update and then I could compare with my Echo Show 1st Gen to see what the differences were like, but Alexa+ is working on all of them despite Amazon saying "When you get access to Alexa+ it will work on all Echo devices, with the exception of certain older generation Echo devices like Echo Dot 1st generation, Echo 1st generation, Echo Plus 1st generation, Echo Show 1st generation, Echo Show 2nd generation and Echo Spot 1st generation, on which you can continue to use the original Alexa." https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amazon-Lights-Alexa/dp/B0...

Puzzled why it's working on my 1st Gen Echo Show. Unless you only only need one compatible device and it's covers all of them.

Anyone else trying it?

AB

19,999 posts

220 months

Friday 20th March
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I have a business account so by the looks of it I won’t be eligible. Not sure why they would do that.


.:ian:.

2,846 posts

228 months

Friday 20th March
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I dont think any of my devices are eligible, but have requested it anyway to see if it works.

£20/month if you dont have prime seems a little much though, its 2x the price of prime!


BlueMR2

9,307 posts

227 months

Saturday 21st March
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What is it?

CrgT16

2,472 posts

133 months

Saturday 21st March
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The idea of having devices recording and collecting all about my life is not one I still happy with. Amazon (and others) do this gigantic data mining and monetise it to the max. Why should I let Amazon know everything about my life? Smart phones are bad enough.

Appreciate the “convenience and productivity” but not for me. I like my devices as dumb as possible and certainly do not want any open mic in my home listening and recording everything.

Scrump

23,861 posts

183 months

Saturday 21st March
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I have requested it, waiting for the invite/instructions.

FourWheelDrift

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92,023 posts

309 months

Saturday 21st March
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Scrump said:
I have requested it, waiting for the invite/instructions.
I didn't request anything, they just sent an email.

I do have Prime though.

Bullett

11,145 posts

209 months

Sunday 22nd March
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I've requested it.

The whole only specific devices are compatible thing is clearly a drive to get people to buy new devices because it's a cloud service, should work with anything.

As mine varies between deaf as a post when standing next to it to picking up a gnat fart 3 rooms away I don't hold out much hope it will be any better or more useful than what we already have.

Magic919

14,246 posts

226 months

Sunday 22nd March
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I have 4 and Amazon say they are all compatible. However, only a very recent one has actually started running it. The other 3 claim they are not compatible when I ask them.

Hoofy

79,611 posts

307 months

Sunday 22nd March
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Right. I might have to replace my devices with Dot 1s. hehe

wibble cb

4,116 posts

232 months

Sunday 22nd March
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BlueMR2 said:
What is it?
Another way of getting money from your wallet on a monthly basis is, I turned off Alexa+, as I don’t find either this or google that useful

Lucas Ayde

4,114 posts

193 months

Monday 23rd March
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Bullett said:
I've requested it.

The whole only specific devices are compatible thing is clearly a drive to get people to buy new devices because it's a cloud service, should work with anything.

As mine varies between deaf as a post when standing next to it to picking up a gnat fart 3 rooms away I don't hold out much hope it will be any better or more useful than what we already have.
It looks like most existing Echo devices are compatible (why wouldn't they be - it's just a voice interface for a chatbot) but they are pimping four specific new Echos on their announcement page. They seem to be implying that if you buy one of those four, you'll get Alexa+ much quicker. But once you have it, it'll likely work on the other Echos that you have.

I've registered to get it early - let's see if they give access. I can't believe that they've taken so much time to put an AI chatbot on the other end - a voice/speech driven device like Echo is the most obvious use-case that I can think of. The existing dumb Alexa is already pretty capable for home automation control but the way you have to add skills and use specific trigger words and phrases is really awkward and it's easy to forget what the commands are , especially ones you don't use often. I still use it to control lights, my security cameras and to an extent, remote control on the AV system. It would be great to have a natural language interface though that I can ask questions of.


Lawro1

93 posts

6 months

Tuesday 24th March
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How are people requesting it?

I have Prime and I've just been to the Amazon site and it simply says they'll contact people in due course - there's no option to request it.

FourWheelDrift

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92,023 posts

309 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Lawro1 said:
How are people requesting it?

I have Prime and I've just been to the Amazon site and it simply says they'll contact people in due course - there's no option to request it.
I didn't request anything I got sent an email to say it was available for me. They are rolling it out gradually, I don't know if it's by how long you have been a Prime subscription member or by region or alphabetically or how many times you have called Jeff a wker.

Lucas Ayde

4,114 posts

193 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Lawro1 said:
How are people requesting it?

I have Prime and I've just been to the Amazon site and it simply says they'll contact people in due course - there's no option to request it.
There's a link in the box saying 'Try Alexa+ for free' on this Amazon page:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DMYQG1N9


21TonyK

13,077 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st March
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Anyone heard anything? Or if you have it, worth the wait?

Terminator X

19,964 posts

229 months

Tuesday 31st March
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I find that Alexa gets dumber every day. So much so that I only ask it the weather now.

TX.

Magic919

14,246 posts

226 months

Tuesday 31st March
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21TonyK said:
Anyone heard anything? Or if you have it, worth the wait?
I’ve got it running on 2 of mine now. It wouldn’t run on multi-lingual devices, so I had to change to English only.

If you get fed up with the lack of answers to questions, then it fills a gap. It’s clearly trying to be some kind of one stop shop for voice-based AI. It uses a more expressive voice, but I did find that annoying for timers.

I presume it’s called early access as they are still developing it. That’s the agile way.

I haven’t turned it back off yet and will give it a bit longer.

FourWheelDrift

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92,023 posts

309 months

Tuesday 31st March
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It's still rolling the features out too.

I heard the new Alexa+ voice and the old Alexa voice out of the same machine and asked Alexa a very long question as to why, old Alexa would have blanked me or turned a light on, new Alexa+ said "how perceptive of me to notice" and went to explain in detail that not all of the responses have been updated yet and are being updated on an ongoing basis.

Actual

1,618 posts

131 months

Wednesday 1st April
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We use Alexa to integrate and control all our smart devices including Smartthings, Philips Hue, Ikea, Somfy and more. Using Alexa groups allows different technology in the same room to be controlled together.

I have read that Alexa+ can forget some of the basic integrations which then stop working which would be a huge backward step if that happened.

The smart st is only tolerated in our house as long as it is easy for Mrs Actual.