CD copying; legal or not. Would a copy play on all players?

[Tafia]

Firstly, is it now illegal to make a back-up copy of a CD for personal use.

Secondly; I overheard a chap in the pub telling his mate that he had ripped and burned music to a CD and, while it played OK on his PC and in his car, it would not play on his home hi-fi system.

Anyone know why this could be?

cheers

[pdV6]

Old HiFi not compatible with CDRs, which are physically different to "permanent" pressed CDs.
Most new CD players will cope just fine.

[jimothy]

I think it's legal for a backup as long as you own the CD. Loads of people do it (copy for the car, original at home)

CD's burnt at home are on a different media (CD-R) to factoy pressed ones, so the player needs to be able to play CD-R's. Sony used to be really bad at playing copies, but they're better at it now. These days, nearly all players should play a CD-R.

[aldi]

I've got a really old (like 8-9 years) marantz that's never had a problem with CDR's, CDRW's are a different matter though and not much older stuff will work with them. I think the drive needs to be 'multiread' to read a CDRW.

[pdV6]

aldi said:

I've got a really old (like 8-9 years) marantz that's never had a problem with CDR's

Probably only plays the first session on the CDRs though, which is ok if all you're doing is a straight like-for-like copy of a bought disc.

[flossythepig]

jimothy said:

I think it's legal for a backup as long as you own the CD.

Data only I'm afraid. Strictly speaking you are committing a copyright offence copying audio onto something else, including cassettes, CDs and iPods thingys.

Hugh

[deckster]

flossythepig said:

jimothy said: I think it's legal for a backup as long as you own the CD. Data only I'm afraid. Strictly speaking you are committing a copyright offence copying audio onto something else, including cassettes, CDs and iPods thingys.

Not data either, unless specifically allowed by the license. Unlike the US we have no provision for 'fair use' copying.

[wedg1e]

In my experience, even old CD players can cope as long as you do a nice slow burn to get a good imprint on the disc. My 1987 Marantz 273 (Philips internals) is fine. The mid-90s Sony 10-disc changer in my TVR is OK- again, as long as you do a slow burn (say 1200 kps), otherwise it skips like a playground schoolie on speed.

[aldi]

wedg1e said:

My 1987 Marantz 273

I bet that looks awesome... bright red LEDs? C O M P A C T D I S C in big white lettering??

Edit: Oh well, I got the lettering right http://cgi.ebay.de/Marantz-CD-Player-CD273_W0QQitemZ

>> Edited by aldi on Thursday 8th December 22:35

[wedg1e]

aldi said:

wedg1e said: My 1987 Marantz 273 I bet that looks awesome... bright red LEDs? C O M P A C T D I S C in big white lettering?? Edit: Oh well, I got the lettering right http://cgi.ebay.de/Marantz-CD-Player-CD273_W0QQitemZ >> Edited by aldi on Thursday 8th December 22:35

No, microscopic BLUE fluorescent (pre-blue-LED days) display. No remote, no shuffle/ random function. You also have to press the OPEN/CLOSE button to get the drawer in, you can't just push it like modern ones. One of the first decks to have digital out so you could use aftermarket D/A conversion (but it doesn't need it, although a mates Philips CD104 had a slight clarity edge in the treble...oh cr@p, I've gone all techo... )
It was £250 new, I want my bloody money's worth

[telecat]

I had the Philips CD150 version. Now have a 1992 spec Meridian 200 transport. Plays anything.

[Tafia]

Many thanks to all for these responses. I knew I would get good info from you folks.

Cheers cheers cheers

T