Getting Software to run with Admin access
Getting Software to run with Admin access
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GlenMH

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5,463 posts

273 months

Monday 12th December 2005
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I have got XP home installed with a couple of limited user accounts set up and 1 admin account for installing stuff. The idea is that we only ever run as a user account. I have downloaded and installed the Ikea kitchen planner software using the admin account as the user account was not able to do it.

I have installed a shortcut in the user accounts but the software gives me an error when I try and run it. If I then click on "run as" and put the admin user name and password in, off it goes.

How can I set things up so that only that program always runs under the admin account? Going Run As all the time is not too elegant - and means more people than necessary needing the admin password....

Cheers

Glen

aranell

868 posts

254 months

Monday 12th December 2005
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Good software shouldn't be profile specific (unless specified).
Have you checked the permissions on the shortcut itself? Make sure your non-admin account has permissions to it. Also, check the folder where the data for the progam is and check that that folder has the correct permissions.

GlenMH

Original Poster:

5,463 posts

273 months

Monday 12th December 2005
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aranell said:
Good software shouldn't be profile specific (unless specified).


Agreed!

aranell said:
Have you checked the permissions on the shortcut itself? Make sure your non-admin account has permissions to it. Also, check the folder where the data for the progam is and check that that folder has the correct permissions.


How do I do that in XP home - there is nothing obvious under any of the tabs in the properties box?

When I try and start it under the user account I get an error box that says "Furnish Pro", which is not very helpful!

Glen

Aldi

9,288 posts

267 months

Monday 12th December 2005
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You could try making sure the limited account has got read/write access to all it's program files, data files, ini files and registry keys?

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

294 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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Aldi said:
You could try making sure the limited account has got read/write access to all it's program files, data files, ini files and registry keys?


Not exactly possible (easily) in XP Home...

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

294 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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GlenMH said:
aranell said:
Good software shouldn't be profile specific (unless specified).


Agreed!

aranell said:
Have you checked the permissions on the shortcut itself? Make sure your non-admin account has permissions to it. Also, check the folder where the data for the progam is and check that that folder has the correct permissions.


How do I do that in XP home - there is nothing obvious under any of the tabs in the properties box?

When I try and start it under the user account I get an error box that says "Furnish Pro", which is not very helpful!

Glen

XP Home does not have folder permissions in the same way that XP Pro does (thats why its cheaper). The only way I feel that you are going to get round this is to make the user an admin.

Its the reason why its worth the £50 extra for Pro, as I've run into this with my M-in-Law and Sage. She brought a basic XP machine (which I specced') and then promptly announced that she wanted the Sage software installed on her machine.

Having had problems with Sage before in the same manner as you IKEA software (which require the directory rights to be released and certain sys files to be modified on the fly when running) I knew that I was stuffed.

She now has to log in as admin to use Sage and when normally using the PC as limited user...

Tres confusing...

>> Edited by neil_cardiff on Tuesday 13th December 08:51

pdV6

16,442 posts

291 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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Glen, try creating a shortcut (or editing the existing one) so that the command line is as follows:

runas /user:GlensMachine\administrator "c:\Program Files\Ikea\IkeaProgram.exe"

Where italics indicate the bits only you know

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

294 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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Now you could script it too... but that'd be a security risk

RunAs can be invoked via VB very nicely...

GlenMH

Original Poster:

5,463 posts

273 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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All

Thanks for the advice!
neil cardiff said:
Its the reason why its worth the £50 extra for Pro, as I've run into this with my M-in-Law and Sage. She brought a basic XP machine (which I specced') and then promptly announced that she wanted the Sage software installed on her machine.

Unfortunately it is a Dell machine bought through a purchase programme at work (deductions pre income tax and NI - nice!!) and the spec was fixed so I couldn't get Pro. I would certainly have preferred it as I know my way round it a bit better!
pdV6 said:
Glen, try creating a shortcut (or editing the existing one) so that the command line is as follows:

runas /user:GlensMachineadministrator "c:Program FilesIkeaIkeaProgram.exe"

Where italics indicate the bits only you know

Like that idea but won't it still need a password somewhere?

Cheers

Glen

aldi

9,288 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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neil_cardiff said:
Aldi said:
You could try making sure the limited account has got read/write access to all it's program files, data files, ini files and registry keys?


Not exactly possible (easily) in XP Home...


Oh XP home = the devil

JonRB

80,078 posts

302 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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It's actually quite a lot of work to make software run properly on a Restricted Account, or at least requires a good understanding of the DO's and DON'Ts and a willingness to spend the extra effort (ie. money) on implementing them, which is why so much software has difficultly running on a Restricted User account.

aldi

9,288 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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JonRB said:
It's actually quite a lot of work to make software run properly on a Restricted Account


In Microsoft(c) Windows(c) maybe

[ot] Vista apparently runs IE in a special restricted login, and has some kind of weird bridging process to make it transparent to the user.

pdV6

16,442 posts

291 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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GlenMH said:

pdV6 said:
Glen, try creating a shortcut (or editing the existing one) so that the command line is as follows:

runas /user:GlensMachine\administrator "c:\Program Files\Ikea\IkeaProgram.exe"

Where italics indicate the bits only you know

Like that idea but won't it still need a password somewhere?

Cheers

Glen

It'll throw a prompt for you to type it in.

JonRB

80,078 posts

302 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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aldi said:
In Microsoft(c) Windows(c) maybe
Well, yeah. We were talking about Windows XP you know, so it's kind of obvious that I was talking about Windows.

GlenMH

Original Poster:

5,463 posts

273 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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pdV6 said:
GlenMH said:

pdV6 said:
Glen, try creating a shortcut (or editing the existing one) so that the command line is as follows:

runas /user:GlensMachineadministrator "c:Program FilesIkeaIkeaProgram.exe"

Where italics indicate the bits only you know

Like that idea but won't it still need a password somewhere?

Cheers

Glen

It'll throw a prompt for you to type it in.

Ah - good. Then I can type it in and we are all happy!

Cheers

Glen