MS Frontpage help

[NiceCupOfTea]

Just been hacking together a very simple web page using MS Frontpage. I used one of their themese, but when I put the thing up on the web I lose the background and the fancy graphics

Looking at the source there seems to be no reference to them at all. Am I doing something wrong?

[zaktoo]

Yes, you're using FrontPage

Seriously though, grab a nice editor from anywhere - Allaire's (now Macromedia) Homesite springs to mind for MS Windows platforms, but there are tons - and use that instead. It'll definitely be worth the time spent, I assure you.

Ciao

Zak

[PetrolTed]

Sadly I agree (much as I hate answering questions with "change tool".

I spent a long time using Frontpage and it's not worth the learning curve. It just makes things too complicated.

[Don]

Interdev / Visual Studio is OK for HTML editing
Frontpage = Total pile of poo

[406tm]

Web Plus 9 from serif is very easy to use. I built this site using it

www.rtcplant.com

Dave

406tm

[ErnestM]

IIRC in order to use MS themes you have to be saving it to a properly configured sharepoint/frontpage extensions enabled IIS. Is your website frontpage extensions friendly?

ErnestM

[spivvy]

ErnestM said:

IIRC in order to use MS themes you have to be saving it to a properly configured sharepoint/frontpage extensions enabled IIS. Is your website frontpage extensions friendly? ErnestM

you could also try Netfusion 9 this is an easy to use product also
as stated above whoever you host with must support frontpage extensions as part of their package

[Plotloss]

Dreamweaver MX

It makes everything so easy.

[PetrolTed]

Plotloss said:

Dreamweaver MX It makes everything so easy.

True, but it's a bit daunting to start with compared to Frontpage.

[pies]

I use frontpage (for my sins)host has to have frontpage extensions loaded. I dont use themes it confuses everything.I just use frames

TBH if i was starting over id use something else as frontpage tends not to merge with other formating codes so easily

[NiceCupOfTea]

It's only a very basic page.

Sorted it with a _themes directory in my root dir with a couple of the files in. Bit clunk though. It was only half an hours work so I will check out some of the recommended progs - thanks folks

[ErnestM]

pies said:

I use frontpage (for my sins)host has to have frontpage extensions loaded. I dont use themes it confuses everything.I just use frames TBH if i was starting over id use something else as frontpage tends not to merge with other formating codes so easily

FWIW, google DIV tags. Frames are kind of crap compare with what you can do with DIV, SPAN and some nice CSS. Just MHO. I used to be a "frames" person as well...

ErnestM

[pies]

ErnestM said:

pies said: I use frontpage (for my sins)host has to have frontpage extensions loaded. I dont use themes it confuses everything.I just use frames TBH if i was starting over id use something else as frontpage tends not to merge with other formating codes so easily FWIW, DIV tags........ DIV,..... SPAN ......nice CSS. ErnestM

WTF

[NiceCupOfTea]

As an addendum - anything decent that is free?

I'm not going into webdev for a career, just knocking a couple of pages together!

[zaktoo]

I use emacs, it has html modes available, which amount to syntax highlighting (they way I use emacs anyway). Emacs is free as well as gratis, not sure if there's an MS Windows option though. The W3 used to supply a (quite horrible) html editor too - it's much better than FrontPage, but not necessarily good in isolation...

If you can use MacOSx and/or a BSD or Linux box, grab bluefish, it seems to be quite niiiiiiice. I play with it now.

Ciao

Zak

[dilbert]

zaktoo said:

I use emacs, it has html modes available, which amount to syntax highlighting (they way I use emacs anyway). Emacs is free as well as gratis, not sure if there's an MS Windows option though. The W3 used to supply a (quite horrible) html editor too - it's much better than FrontPage, but not necessarily good in isolation... If you can use MacOSx and/or a BSD or Linux box, grab bluefish, it seems to be quite niiiiiiice. I play with it now. Ciao Zak

I know that there is a route to GNU CPP for windows through DJ Delorie's site. GNU, EMACS and GPP are kind of in the same bag in my mind. There may be a way to a WIN32 version of EMACS that way.

If interested Google DJGPP and/or DJ Delorie.

>> Edited by dilbert on Tuesday 20th December 05:14

[spivvy]

yup could always do it in word and save as HTML page

[miniman]

spivvy said:

yup could always do it in word and save as HTML page

NO NO NO NO NO!!! (No!)

Word is utterly rubbish at outputting decent HTML. You will get overweight, messy, non-compliant code.

Dreamweaver MX is great albeit fairly complex. However you will produce much better sites by getting to grips with good, structured XHTML and CSS, which you can easily and quickly hand-code with notepad.

[Don]

NiceCupOfTea said:

As an addendum - anything decent that is free? I'm not going into webdev for a career, just knocking a couple of pages together!

Out of interest Microsoft are giving away Visual Studio (Express...) free at the moment. You can have ALL their languages, a database, web authoring tools, the whole shebang free, gratis and for nothing.

Of course...I'm sure one will soon find that some important feature is only available in the paid-for version on every project one does...but its got to be worth a look for some "home" software/web creation. Given that its FREE!

[bga]

I've had a look at nvu - www.nvu.com/ in the past & it looks pretty good for a free wysiwyg editor.