Tried to disable MSN bits, but it still works?!
Tried to disable MSN bits, but it still works?!
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xiphias

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5,889 posts

257 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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Here's the issue. I'm home for christmas hols, along with my brother. This means theres probably a doubling in normal bandwidth needed. However, as me and my brother use webpages, no issue. The issue runs with my youngest brother, permanant resident of the household. Being a 14 year old, he's permanantly on the webcam all the time. Obviously this saturates the upstream bandwidth, and the net grinds to a halt. Being the selfish little ct he is, he won't listen.

Enough rambling. The obvious solution is to disable upnp on the router, thus killing msn's way of connecting. However, even with his pc behind NAT and ports forwarded, the webcam still works?

HOW?!!?

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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xiphias said:
Here's the issue. I'm home for christmas hols, along with my brother. This means theres probably a doubling in normal bandwidth needed. However, as me and my brother use webpages, no issue. The issue runs with my youngest brother, permanant resident of the household. Being a 14 year old, he's permanantly on the webcam all the time. Obviously this saturates the upstream bandwidth, and the net grinds to a halt. Being the selfish little ct he is, he won't listen.

Enough rambling. The obvious solution is to disable upnp on the router, thus killing msn's way of connecting. However, even with his pc behind NAT and ports forwarded, the webcam still works?

HOW?!!?


Take webcam.

Smash to bits.

Job done.

pentoman

4,835 posts

293 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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Yeah uPnP just facilitates the MSN's workings but it can work without them usually fine.

Some routers let you enable a sort of secure, web-only mode so only web browsing works. A bit mean but hey, if he won't listen.. . There should be an easier way to block the webcam though.


Russell

Trooper2

6,676 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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Not an expert, but I would think that you just need to find out what port the webcam is using and block it with the firewall.?

malman

2,258 posts

289 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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If you have a firewall
block this lot

5004 - 65535 udp send and receive. To use audio/video features you have to open up a range within the one that is give here.

xiphias

Original Poster:

5,889 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th January 2006
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I can't block ports, but theoritically I can forward them to a non-existent ip. I just don't understand how if it can't use upnp, and inbound packets will be blocked by nat, how it communicates?

sp60

524 posts

289 months

Wednesday 4th January 2006
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If the connection is instigated from inside the NAT, there is no restriction on the ports that can be used.....unless there is a firewall setting blocking certain NAT connections AFAIK.

agent006

12,058 posts

294 months

Wednesday 4th January 2006
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Yep, NAT only blocks ports that haven't been already opened from the inside. All the MSN traffic is initiated Client-side, so the inbound traffic is all responses.